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Old 09-27-2009, 10:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
1. Pull troops out of every country.
2. Secure borders no amensty
3. Remove the federal income tax.
4. Repeal Nafta, Cafta and WTO
5. Leave the UN.
6. Remove all the executive orders of George W bush and most presidental orders.
7. Return to sound money and balance the budget
8. 700 billion dollar bailouts are removed and paulsons auth.
9. Remove the IRS and the CIA needs oversight.
10. Stop all tax dollar foreign aid.
11. Reduce all federal government by 50%.
12. Remove homeland security
13. Make SS optional for anyone under 40 (opt out option)
14. Remove the Federal Reserve system and interest rate price fixing.
15. Obey the constitution strictly.
16. Phase out welfare within 15 years.

1000% agree with every point. I would add welcoming gays into the party of freedom, and not James Dobson's party.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Conservative platform

Put the final nails into the coffin of the Reagan Revolution which has nearly destroyed our country and economy. I only agree with #4.

I think we should install a truly progressive income tax that only applies to the top 20% of the incomes and countervailing tariffs to protect American innovators, industries and workers. We do not need $50 Chinese junk tires; we need $100 Goodyear tires and the jobs that come with them. Goodyear employees can afford Goodyear tires but out of work employees cannot afford even the $50 tires or the clunker to put them on.

If we continue the myth that everybody NEEDS to WORK for a living we should have a major increase in government employment in order to control what these people are doing and to make them work for a living. Among other things this "employment instead of welfare" system would drive up wages in the private sector and slow the redistribution of wealth from the creator’s to the owners.

PS: this is my just part of my Liberal Platform.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you take away the money generated by the IRS today the total amount left would equal what was generated 10 years ago.

All of our troops should be home protecting our borders. They should not act as the World Police. It is too costly and incites hatred for the US.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:15 PM
 
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If you truly want all that, then you people are going to have to vote Libertarians in office. Otherwise it not going to happen.
ONLY YOU CAN CHANGE THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM: STOP THE ADDICTION
VOTE LIBERTARIAN
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:05 AM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
1. Pull troops out of every country.
2. Secure borders no amensty
3. Remove the federal income tax.
4. Repeal Nafta, Cafta and WTO
5. Leave the UN.
6. Remove all the executive orders of George W bush and most presidental orders.
7. Return to sound money and balance the budget
8. 700 billion dollar bailouts are removed and paulsons auth.
9. Remove the IRS and the CIA needs oversight.
10. Stop all tax dollar foreign aid.
11. Reduce all federal government by 50%.
12. Remove homeland security
13. Make SS optional for anyone under 40 (opt out option)
14. Remove the Federal Reserve system and interest rate price fixing.
15. Obey the constitution strictly.
16. Phase out welfare within 15 years.
This isn't a conservative platform, it's a Libertarian one.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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1. Pull troops out of every country.
2. Secure borders no amensty
3. Remove the federal income tax.
4. Repeal Nafta, Cafta and WTO
5. Leave the UN.
6. Remove all the executive orders of George W bush and most presidental orders.
7. Return to sound money and balance the budget
8. 700 billion dollar bailouts are removed and paulsons auth.
9. Remove the IRS and the CIA needs oversight.
10. Stop all tax dollar foreign aid.
11. Reduce all federal government by 50%.
12. Remove homeland security
13. Make SS optional for anyone under 40 (opt out option)
14. Remove the Federal Reserve system and interest rate price fixing.
15. Obey the constitution strictly.
16. Phase out welfare within 15 years.
Agree mostly. Not much here about national security. If these were even partially implemented, the rest of the rogue world would be down on us like flies on honey. As they would be left out in the cold so to speak to fend for themselves. Nevertheless these are bold and probably eventually necessary approaches, especially so after the White House Scum are done with us in a few years. A total hands off international policy is better than what the present idiot Kumbaya President is doing.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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Agree mostly. Not much here about national security. If these were even partially implemented, the rest of the rogue world would be down on us like flies on honey. As they would be left out in the cold so to speak to fend for themselves. Nevertheless these are bold and probably eventually necessary approaches, especially so after the White House Scum are done with us in a few years. A total hands off international policy is better than what the present idiot Kumbaya President is doing.
Joking, of course! You can't be serious, right?

Maybe the George W. Bush big-government -- the biggest ever -- shoot to kill approach is better, eh?
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:57 AM
 
Location: PA
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As in, remove the troops that conservative administrations have placed there.

I dont think I need to respond to this one.. We all know each administration has put troops somewhere democrat or republican.

And hire enough border patrol agents and immigration officials to deport 11 million people.

No, secure borders with the troops and bases we close in other nations.
Second investigate all the "social security" numbers and people supposely working and those in the work force go after the businesses. Also come up and new system for hiring and regulation on the hiring process.


And pay for the administration of our country through the generous donations of rich people?
Income tax doesnt none of that already and in fact most of it goes to pay for the interest on the national debt. Lets start keeping a balanced bugdet and what is really being spent then we can talk about donations of the "rich" Many things can be funded via charity you have to know how to motivate those in the nation.

Actually, agreed, except for the part of about the WTO. We can't "repeal" a world body. The best we can do is remove ourselves from it. Not only that, but why would we? Don't we need a say in global economic policy?

The only global economic policy is the basic trade and market of open business. Nothing else is needed.

And just do watever we want to do, and screw everyone else. Anyone who isn't american has a life that is less valuable than mine.

The UN is a place to talk not a place of action and or creating groups of nations finding ways to screw everyone. It is also not a place of power, should not have troops and we should not be involved in following resolutions based on false hoods, bad information and "world dictatorships"


I'm pretty sure that every president reviews all standing executive orders, and rescinds the ones that are no longer appropriate. So what you are asking for already happens.

Executive orders were added and have been over used to bypass, the congress and or other powers. Like lets round up the japaneese after pearl harbor.

Agreed. But do you mean like it was the last time it was balanced, under Clinton? Because it has been 48 years since a conservative president has had a balanced budget.

Yes under Clinton with a republican congress and a little man in the background called Ross Perot who made it an issue during the elections and assisted Clinton in moving in the right direction after Clinton won.

And let companies who employ MILLIONS of workers go out of business. I'd say unemployment is already high enough.

Yes let them go under and they dont employee millions. The company is doing bad for a REASON! Yet we let the mom and pop shops go under, but I guess those jobs arent as important. Which is where we come the reality that somehow in the eyes of government bailing out their buddies and creating more debt is somehow protecting us.

If you remove the IRS, what is the CIA overseeing?

Remove the IRS is seperate from the CIA.
The CIA needs oversight by congress and or another division.

And don't help old ladies cross the street. And teach autistic children in the same classrooms with regular children, to ensure they fail. Screw everyone who isn't just like me, basically.

What does this have to do with sorry funding the rest of the world via tax dollars this has nothing to do with the united states funding.

So now, it will take six months to get a passport rather than three.

What fact shows that if I cut the government 50% it will take longer to get it done? If anything the more money they have the more time it takes and would probably do it wrong anyway. ( Example Iraq)

The one created by conservatives? Or is there a different one that you want removed?

I sort of agree. Except what about people who fail to save for retirement? Just let them starve to death? Poor financial planning is punishable by death by starvation?

I guess it would be easier for you just let us all suffer together to a system that doesnt promote individual responsiblity. The option to OPT out is just that the OPTION!

So who will decide the interest rate on the money that the federal government loans to banks? Congress? The president?

Actually that is determined but the treasury department which is its job.
The Treasury also before the federal reserve "BANK" in 1913 would also print and audit its money and usually back everything with real substance.
"gold"

Which constitution? The one that was originally drafted? Or the one that has been amended by the people and interpreted by the courts? The one that was originally drafted did not count black people or women as citizens. The one that has been amended by the people and interpreted by the courts is the one we have today, and we already follow it pretty strictly.

I would say our current constitution appended by congress. Judges do not have the right to amend and or change the constitutation and also all amendments and the bill of rights should be reviewed and the original intent should be entacted.

And then do what? Just let homeless people and hungry people die? Even if they are homeless and hungry just because they are lazy, does that really warrant a death sentence?
Are you serious..phase out welfare replace it with something else but not let it be a function of the federal government and or even move it to the local state. [/quote]
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:59 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
1. Pull troops out of every country.
2. Secure borders no amensty
3. Remove the federal income tax.
4. Repeal Nafta, Cafta and WTO
5. Leave the UN.
6. Remove all the executive orders of George W bush and most presidental orders.
7. Return to sound money and balance the budget
8. 700 billion dollar bailouts are removed and paulsons auth.
9. Remove the IRS and the CIA needs oversight.
10. Stop all tax dollar foreign aid.
11. Reduce all federal government by 50%.
12. Remove homeland security
13. Make SS optional for anyone under 40 (opt out option)
14. Remove the Federal Reserve system and interest rate price fixing.
15. Obey the constitution strictly.
16. Phase out welfare within 15 years.

thats not a conservative agenda, thats a Libertarian agenda.

btw, opting out of SS is already possible.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
1. Pull troops out of every country.
2. Secure borders no amensty
3. Remove the federal income tax.
4. Repeal Nafta, Cafta and WTO
5. Leave the UN.
6. Remove all the executive orders of George W bush and most presidental orders.
7. Return to sound money and balance the budget
8. 700 billion dollar bailouts are removed and paulsons auth.
9. Remove the IRS and the CIA needs oversight.
10. Stop all tax dollar foreign aid.
11. Reduce all federal government by 50%.
12. Remove homeland security
13. Make SS optional for anyone under 40 (opt out option)
14. Remove the Federal Reserve system and interest rate price fixing.
15. Obey the constitution strictly.
16. Phase out welfare within 15 years.

That is a person I would vote for, as would most Americans with a brain
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