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Old 01-25-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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In fact, the past administration's policy was very similar to that of the Catholic Church. Morning After Pills /BC Pills/IUDs cause early abortions, barrier methods/sterilization are evil.

I used the Pill, before and after marriage. When we had our 2 planned children, my husband got a vasectomy in 1984. NONE of this is in line with the teachings of the past administration's policies; Abstinence only until marriage and Faithfullness in Marriage. WHERE is the mention of Birth Control in any of that?
Agree. The Bush crowd parroted the talking points handed them by evango-fascists like Dobson, Robertson, Falwelll[d] and other members of the wingnut American Taliban.
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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Choose applies to shoes and grades of gasoline. Abortion involves killing a child. No one has that right.
You are right; NOBODY has the right to kill children.... Thankfully science supports the fact that undeveloped fetuses are not alive and therefore not "children" throughout the early period of time in a pregnancy abortions are legal(thus they can't be "killed"), and our laws protect scientific fact.
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:36 PM
 
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The cult of personality. The dehumanizing of human things. Focusing population control on specific groups of people for their "betterment". A massive national propaganda machine. History repeating itself with a twist.
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:41 PM
 
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The cult of personality. The dehumanizing of human things.
Like deciding every family on Welfare is lazy and looking for a handout? That kind of dehumanization? Please clarify.

Because on this forum, I've seen an awful lot of "oh, the poor baby...don't let the mother MURDER it" morph into "they can get lost, get a job and feed it themselves" once the sweet little baby is now 8 years old, living in the projects and has a behavior problem.

Life is precious.

Until it's actually born and somebody has to deal with it.

Love the reasoning, who's playing God again here? Maybe the ones who tell perfect strangers long-distance that they're murdering horrors if they don't carry a pregnancy to term...then turn their backs utterly and scream against the "taxes" it takes that 15-year-old mom "deadbeat" to feed her child with.

But that's okay. It can always be dehumanized with, "Oh, they're not feeding their kids with it! They're buying crack and cigarettes."

The Irony. The Hypocrisy. The Conservative Right.

This has been a public service announcement from People Who State The Obvious.

Last edited by JerZ; 01-26-2009 at 08:46 PM.. Reason: edited b/c I was getting pretty rough there
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:58 PM
 
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Like deciding every family on Welfare is lazy and looking for a handout? That kind of dehumanization? Please clarify.

Because on this forum, I've seen an awful lot of "oh, the poor baby...don't let the mother MURDER it" morph into "they can get lost, get a job and feed it themselves" once the sweet little baby is now 8 years old, living in the projects and has a behavior problem.

Life is precious.

Until it's actually born and somebody has to deal with it.

Love the reasoning, who's playing God again here? Maybe the ones who tell perfect strangers long-distance that they're murdering horrors if they don't carry a pregnancy to term...then turn their backs utterly and scream against the "taxes" it takes that 15-year-old mom "deadbeat" to feed her child with.

But that's okay. It can always be dehumanized with, "Oh, they're not feeding their kids with it! They're buying crack and cigarettes."

The Irony. The Hypocrisy. The Conservative Right.

This has been a public service announcement from People Who State The Obvious.
Can't rep you again so how about a standing ovation !!????





PS. You KNOW some will just refuse to "get it"
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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Like deciding every family on Welfare is lazy and looking for a handout? That kind of dehumanization? Please clarify.

Because on this forum, I've seen an awful lot of "oh, the poor baby...don't let the mother MURDER it" morph into "they can get lost, get a job and feed it themselves" once the sweet little baby is now 8 years old, living in the projects and has a behavior problem.

Life is precious.

Until it's actually born and somebody has to deal with it.

Love the reasoning, who's playing God again here? Maybe the ones who tell perfect strangers long-distance that they're murdering horrors if they don't carry a pregnancy to term...then turn their backs utterly and scream against the "taxes" it takes that 15-year-old mom "deadbeat" to feed her child with.

But that's okay. It can always be dehumanized with, "Oh, they're not feeding their kids with it! They're buying crack and cigarettes."

The Irony. The Hypocrisy. The Conservative Right.

This has been a public service announcement from People Who State The Obvious.

Nice.... Rep+
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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Can't rep you again so how about a standing ovation !!????
Sold! :P Thanks, hon.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:12 PM
 
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Like deciding every family on Welfare is lazy and looking for a handout? That kind of dehumanization? Please clarify.

Because on this forum, I've seen an awful lot of "oh, the poor baby...don't let the mother MURDER it" morph into "they can get lost, get a job and feed it themselves" once the sweet little baby is now 8 years old, living in the projects and has a behavior problem.

Life is precious.

Until it's actually born and somebody has to deal with it.

Love the reasoning, who's playing God again here? Maybe the ones who tell perfect strangers long-distance that they're murdering horrors if they don't carry a pregnancy to term...then turn their backs utterly and scream against the "taxes" it takes that 15-year-old mom "deadbeat" to feed her child with.

But that's okay. It can always be dehumanized with, "Oh, they're not feeding their kids with it! They're buying crack and cigarettes."

The Irony. The Hypocrisy. The Conservative Right.

This has been a public service announcement from People Who State The Obvious.
Rationalize it however you want. It's your world we are just in it.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:16 PM
 
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You guys seem to always be the champions for more entitlements without even remotely looking at what those entitlements are doing to us. Will you get it when the fed. gov. files for chapter 7? How's your family going to be doing when every program for familial services are rendered useless for lack of money.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:18 PM
 
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You guys seem to always be the champions for more entitlements without even remotely looking at what those entitlements are doing to us. Will you get it when the fed. gov. files for chapter 7? How's your family going to be doing when every program for familial services are rendered useless for lack of money.
What does this have to do with abortion?

Are you saying if nobody had an abortion, we'd have no economic problems?
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