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Old 07-12-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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PS: Not here to offend anyone, I am only asking out of curiosity.


I noticed that many things in American are highly commercialize or their purpose it to make money. I was talking with a friend and he told me that in America soccer and other sports are simply seen as "money making machines." Hence you have people wanting to make it family friend or even say soccer is a "girly sport."

Meanwhile, I watched this YouTube video where two American college girls who went to a soccer game and assume it was going to be a family event. Instead, they were greeted by soccer hooligans who were shouting at each other and climbing on cars. It seems the fans were way more passionate and it was not "family event" nor a "highly commercialized" event where to sell merchandize.

The American college girls told the interviewer, "Well it wasn't what we expected. We might be skipping the next matches" I just laughed since it seems that they were there to take "selfies'. While to the European fans it meant the world to them.
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Old 07-12-2021, 09:05 AM
 
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It probably various from country to country. Greek, Turkish and English fans are the worst...can't imagine the same from the likes of Luxembourg, Finland, Austria, Estonia and so on.
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Old 07-12-2021, 09:15 AM
 
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I seem to remember some pretty hard core partying after some American sports events, climbing on cars included. Every nation has some devoted fans.
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https://www.syracuse.com/.com/us-new...l_victory.html
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Old 07-12-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Lordy, I lived in Germany when Germany won the World Cup in soccer. I have literally never seen anything like it outside of Mardi Gras! And the celebrating went on for about three days and three nights!

I'm a Saints fan and even I didn't act that crazy after the Saints won the Super Bowl!
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Old 07-12-2021, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Because Americans already have a religion, it's called two-party politics.
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Old 07-12-2021, 12:45 PM
 
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PS: Not here to offend anyone, I am only asking out of curiosity.


I noticed that many things in American are highly commercialize or their purpose it to make money. I was talking with a friend and he told me that in America soccer and other sports are simply seen as "money making machines." Hence you have people wanting to make it family friend or even say soccer is a "girly sport."

Meanwhile, I watched this YouTube video where two American college girls who went to a soccer game and assume it was going to be a family event. Instead, they were greeted by soccer hooligans who were shouting at each other and climbing on cars. It seems the fans were way more passionate and it was not "family event" nor a "highly commercialized" event where to sell merchandize.

The American college girls told the interviewer, "Well it wasn't what we expected. We might be skipping the next matches" I just laughed since it seems that they were there to take "selfies'. While to the European fans it meant the world to them.

Both "Europe" (EU + UK) and "America" (USA) have professional sports teams that have players with big salaries, expensive stadiums, etc.


Both "Europe" and "America" have some fans of those sports who go crazy for their teams.


Not that different, although the US has college (university) football, which Europe lacks.
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Old 07-12-2021, 02:54 PM
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PS: Not here to offend anyone, I am only asking out of curiosity.


I noticed that many things in American are highly commercialize or their purpose it to make money. I was talking with a friend and he told me that in America soccer and other sports are simply seen as "money making machines." Hence you have people wanting to make it family friend or even say soccer is a "girly sport."

Meanwhile, I watched this YouTube video where two American college girls who went to a soccer game and assume it was going to be a family event. Instead, they were greeted by soccer hooligans who were shouting at each other and climbing on cars. It seems the fans were way more passionate and it was not "family event" nor a "highly commercialized" event where to sell merchandize.

The American college girls told the interviewer, "Well it wasn't what we expected. We might be skipping the next matches" I just laughed since it seems that they were there to take "selfies'. While to the European fans it meant the world to them.
Modern football stadiums are well policed, and there are also stewards and security every where and CCTV cameras scan crowds.

The days of blatant hooliganism stopped when new legislation was put in place that saw the introduction of football banning orders, passport confiscation, having to sign on at a local police station at kick off time, and ankle tags etc.

This was coupled with far harsher prison sentences.

The police also set up a National Football Intelligence Unit, and had photos of all known hooligans, with police spotters and CCTV scanning crowds.

In terms of a passion, there is a lot of passion in relation to your city or areas team, and team loyalties are often passed down from father to so, although I think deep passion is a better description than religion.

As for being a family event, some clubs have family areas, and there are also more expensive seats and areas which usually include restaurants and private boxes.

In terms of shouting you are always going to get shouting and noise at such events, and certain derby games do tend to bring out the worst in some fans.

Although you are unlikely to see violence at a football match, and any anti-social behaviour is generally dealt with quite swiftly, and opposing fans are kept well away from each other.

Here's Everton's new ground.

Bramley-Moore Dock: Everton cleared to build new £500m stadium - BBC News (March 2021)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnPtZGeBfA

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Old 07-12-2021, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Austintown, OH
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I've been to a lot of sporting events, and nothing will top the passion I saw at a random Benfica match in Lisbon.

Except maybe when I was in Amsterdam and Chelsea was playing in the Europa Final, holy cow was that crazy
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Old 07-13-2021, 03:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Vernell111 View Post
PS: Not here to offend anyone, I am only asking out of curiosity.


I noticed that many things in American are highly commercialize or their purpose it to make money. I was talking with a friend and he told me that in America soccer and other sports are simply seen as "money making machines." Hence you have people wanting to make it family friend or even say soccer is a "girly sport."

Meanwhile, I watched this YouTube video where two American college girls who went to a soccer game and assume it was going to be a family event. Instead, they were greeted by soccer hooligans who were shouting at each other and climbing on cars. It seems the fans were way more passionate and it was not "family event" nor a "highly commercialized" event where to sell merchandize.

The American college girls told the interviewer, "Well it wasn't what we expected. We might be skipping the next matches" I just laughed since it seems that they were there to take "selfies'. While to the European fans it meant the world to them.
sports teams in america are a lot more detached from the fans , the idea that Manchester United could move to London is unthinkable in the UK yet that happens all of the time in the USA with football teams etc , there is no localism

supporting a sports team in America is not much different than being a big fan of Star Wars or the Avengers series

obviously money has made the british game less connected to the grassroots but its still a lot less of a corporate driven culture than in America , we saw that a year ago or so with the backlash against Glazers
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Old 07-13-2021, 03:21 AM
 
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I've been to a lot of sporting events, and nothing will top the passion I saw at a random Benfica match in Lisbon.

Except maybe when I was in Amsterdam and Chelsea was playing in the Europa Final, holy cow was that crazy
I can go one better , I was at a match in Bueonos Aires between River plate and Boca juniors back in 2004 , the atmosphere was sizzling
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