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Old 05-20-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Vegas
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By EDWARD P. JOSEPH and SRECKO LATALMAY 20, 2014

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Bosnia and Herzegovina is drowning. Torrential rains have unleashed roaring funnels of water and mudslides that have consumed entire villages and taken more than 30 lives, according to official Bosnian counts. Almost a million are reported displaced; many more remain at risk. The economic toll will reach into billions of dollars in a small country with a tragic history. As one Bosnian remarked, “We were already struggling, now we are sinking.”
Showing the floods and people rushing to save themselves is easy. Digging deeper into other problems facing the area is a bit different. If it doesn't deal with violence or threats from other nations, it doesn't fit the profit-driven-agenda of the MSM. So, how many other countries in the former Warsaw Pact are facing the exact same problems? Read the story @ http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/op...s&emc=rss&_r=0
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Old 05-20-2014, 04:25 PM
 
Location: NYC
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In short, Bosnia needs urgent international assistance not only to deal with the floods, but also to end the country’s political paralysis. Hands-on international supervision kept Bosnia functioning for a decade after war ended in 1995, but that supervision gave way, in 2006, to a new policy of “local ownership.” When the new international high representative surrendered his powers to break local political deadlocks, he gave the fractious parties a green light to paralyze governance while Bosnian civil society and outside powers looked on passively.
I don't get this part. So they benefited greatly before from international supervision but have proved they cannot do it on their own. So the solution is to supervise them some more because of their own incompetence? They might as well plead to join Russia.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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So Bosnia's having problems because it has taken federalism to extremes.

Imagine that.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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By EDWARD P. JOSEPH and SRECKO LATALMAY 20, 2014



Showing the floods and people rushing to save themselves is easy. Digging deeper into other problems facing the area is a bit different. If it doesn't deal with violence or threats from other nations, it doesn't fit the profit-driven-agenda of the MSM. So, how many other countries in the former Warsaw Pact are facing the exact same problems? Read the story @ http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/op...s&emc=rss&_r=0
Bosnia HSG and all other republics of former Yugoslavia were not in the former Warsaw Pact. Former Yugoslavia under Josep Broz Tito had a communist / socialist command economy with single party rule, but Yugoslavia was not in a political or military alliance with the former USSR and the other socialist nations of the former Warsaw Pact. Non-alignment strategy is what Tito was best known for outside Yugoslavia.
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Old 05-21-2014, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Serbia
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First: as recycled said Yugoslavia (and thus Bosnia) was not a member of the Warsaw Pact but one of the founders of Non-Aligned Movement (during the Cold War Yugoslavia was strictly non-aligned)

Second: problems in Bosnia are "unique" to Bosnia and were caused by disintegration of Yugoslavia and the wars that followed it

Unlike neighboring countries (Serbia and Croatia) which are religiously homogeneous Bosnia is divided into "ethno-religious" groups (Serbs-Orthodox, Croats-Catholics and Bosniaks-Muslims)

It all functioned relatively well during the "Pan-South Slavic" country (while Serbia and Croatia were part of the country) but as Yugoslavia disintegrated so did Bosnia

originally Yugoslavia was the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes but after the Second World War Tito's policy was "to balance" different ethnic groups and thus resulting in Montenegrins and Macedonians. then in the late sixties "Muslims by nationality" was also added for Slavic Muslims who lived mainly in Bosnia and the Sandzak region, than during the nineties "Muslims by nationality" were renamed "Bosniaks"

so post-WW2 Yugoslavia doubled its number of constitutional peoples


Subdivisions of Yugoslavia's

Oblasts (1922–1929)
Subdivisions of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Banovinas (1929–1941)
Subdivisions of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Banovina of Croatia (1939–1941)
Banovina of Croatia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...9-1941.svg.png

Proposed 3 Banovinas
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._1939_1941.png

Post-WW2 federation
Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


after the war while Bosnia was under foreign rule, voice of the people was secondary, while the survival of the country was the primary objective

The problem is half of the population (Serbs and Croats) does not want to be a part of Bosnia and Herzegovina anymore. only the Muslims are pushing for it...

and as far as this article It was written by some one with his head in the clouds who is not able to objectively see the situation

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In short, Bosnia needs urgent international assistance not only to deal with the floods, but also to end the country’s political paralysis. Hands-on international supervision kept Bosnia functioning for a decade after war ended in 1995, but that supervision gave way, in 2006, to a new policy of “local ownership.” When the new international high representative surrendered his powers to break local political deadlocks, he gave the fractious parties a green light to paralyze governance while Bosnian civil society and outside powers looked on passively.


Enduring change can come only from within, but it will not come without a strong catalyst from the United States and the European Union. Re-creating full-throated outside oversight is not an option. Instead, the outside powers should devise new ways to make joining the European Union a practical possibility, so long as Bosnia’s institutions function well for its citizens. Good ideas for reforming Bosnia’s Constitution, curbing corruption and changing election rules abound, both abroad and in Bosnian civil society. What’s lacking are inducements to adopt those reforms.
international supervision kept Bosnia existing but NOT "functioning"
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Vegas
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Thanks to Misko for a very well-thought-out and informative post.
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I was already planning on visiting this summer. Seems like good timing, I'm sure they can benefit from tourist follars more than ever now.
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