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Should Nordics, Baltics be worried ? Trump Stated some time ago, that on the case of Russian Invasion on Baltics or Finland it may not result with a immidiate military assistance? Hows the USA and Russia relations going to affect this all ? Will there be some secret pacts on the way ? Discuss please.
I just heard on the news that he's very iffy about supporting NATO, and a spokesperson for Norway said they're very concerned about this. He wished to remind Trump that the US's focus with NATO since 9/11 has been terrorism-related security, or something along those lines, on the US' behalf.
It's quite bewildering. But this is how the Republicans think: cutting spending everywhere possible, without warning.
When the evangelical Republicans took over Congress in the middle 90's, they immediately slashed foreign aid spending to the extent that they cut off funding to the US' several "area foundations" that channel foreign aid to the worlds' different regions (Africa Foundation, Asia Foundation, Inter-America Foundation). These were told to go find their funding elsewhere, and they were immediately thrown into crisis, and had to begin private fund-raising (i.e. going begging), while also applying for funding to charitable foundations. The (then) newly-created Eurasia Foundation, for funding citizen groups ("civil society") in Russia, was shut down completely, the doors locked, the employees all sent home. This, after awarding grants to people (Americans) doing work with Russia; suddenly these organizations, which had already initiated their projects, couldn't reach the Foundation to get their money to pay for their project expenses, staff, whatever. No one knew they had closed.
So this is how they operate. *poof* The command is given, and government institutions are closed, international commitments and initiatives cancelled, funding withdrawn. They don't care how much havoc they create. Of course a lot of this is simply ignorance about how diplomacy, foreign aid, and international negotiations and so on are normally conducted. It's outrageous. I'm afraid the prospects are worrisome.
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Should Nordics, Baltics be worried ? Trump Stated some time ago, that on the case of Russian Invasion on Baltics or Finland it may not result with a immidiate military assistance? Hows the USA and Russia relations going to affect this all ? Will there be some secret pacts on the way ? Discuss please.
Maybe this is why Putin was so Trump-happy during the election cycle. The path is clear for him now, or he hopes so.....?
Well definitely Northern European politicians and people are concerned according to the mainstream media, and the only ones who are happy, are Putin and Trump themselves.
Putin indeed is a big winner in these elections, but so far I can't find any reasonable explanations - why would he want to take over Baltics? Or Finland for this matter?
I hope Trump sees that Russia is not the problem here. NATO and the MIE are the trouble makers.Theres no good reason for American weapons and troops to be in Europe other than to make certain people rich.
I'm not holding my breath though. NATO has a way of perpetuating itself just like all government machinery.
Putin indeed is a big winner in these elections, but so far I can't find any reasonable explanations - why would he want to take over Baltics? Or Finland for this matter?
Russia is always been unpredictable,hungry for new territories, especially ''claiming'' back what used to be once part of it, military exercises especially focusing on attacking west not defending, et cetra ? Of course ''invasion'' is extreme scenario, but still possible.
The Baltics would only be a burden to Russia as would the Ukraine.
Well, define "burden" Scrat.
If you care about the NATIONAL interests of your country, the inclusion of YOUR OWN people, the population with their lands, that extend your territories ( which was a traditional way of self-protection for Russia) and add to your labor force - how this can be a "burden"? (I am talking about Eastern part of Ukraine of course.)
If you, however, consider as an ultimate goal first and utmost the enrichment of your "upper class" and consider an investment in your own people ( instead of London's property or some "New York Mets") as "undesirable" since it doesn't immediately brings you "high return" - then yes, it becomes a "burden."
Putin indeed is a big winner in these elections, but so far I can't find any reasonable explanations - why would he want to take over Baltics? Or Finland for this matter?
I couldn't say re: the Baltics. But of course he wouldn't invade Finland or Norway. But maybe the simple threat of doing so in the Baltics is to his advantage. To keep those countries guessing, keep them nervous.
There could be a negotiating advantage there, if they feel that suddenly the rug has been snatched out from under them, and they're on shaky ground, without a clear commitment from NATO (i.e. the US). Previously there were in a position of strength regarding independence from Russia, but with an American withdrawal or passivity, they will suddenly be in a weaker position. Russia could use that to its advantage.
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