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Old 01-30-2015, 06:11 AM
 
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It's a tool for Russia to keep its vassals in check.
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:27 AM
 
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It seems like it is. The newly created EEU currently has Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Russia as its members with Armenia acceding in a few months and Tajikistan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh, Donetsk, and Luhansk as potential members.

I think the EEU will help the members become developed nations so they are of relatively equal economic development, and make the members more economically reliable on each other. Ultimately, the transition into a sovereign nation will be smoother and chronically sustainable so it will not end up like the Soviet Union in its final days.
Not quite right. Not a political union, and economic. Ie political decisions are different, but if against the Union sanctions will be applied, then they will act against the entire Union sanctions against a country is unreal - everything goes through another country quietly, without charging additional fees. Likewise, if sanctions apply the entire Union, and then import into this union nothing will be impossible. On the territory of the union will be abolished internal tariffs on goods, both in the EU and will be a joint development.

PS. but in some there is some truth - the total economy is the first step to a common policy.
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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How can you join if you're not a state? Could Richmond Hill, Ontario join?
they are. The truth is not yet Donetsk.

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It's a tool for Russia to keep its vassals in check.
Oh, and then a transatlantic pact pursues the same goal.
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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Oh, and then a transatlantic pact pursues the same goal.
NATO was established to keep Russia in check, silly you.
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:33 AM
 
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NATO was established to keep Russia in check, silly you.
Oh, say it to NATO they try to say that it isn't)
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:34 AM
 
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It's a tool for Russia to keep its vassals in check.
And recent events in Ukraine have shown that Belarus and Kazakhstan don't want to be merely vassals of Russia.

Personally I believe this "union" will ultimately come to nothing.

Seriously, sitting at this table?



Reeks like Komintern Soviet Russia. Yuck.
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:49 AM
 
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And recent events in Ukraine have shown that Belarus and Kazakhstan don't want to be merely vassals of Russia.

Personally I believe this "union" will ultimately come to nothing.

Seriously, sitting at this table?



Reeks like Komintern Soviet Russia. Yuck.
Oh realy? It's joke isn't it?) You cant say that sereous)) Kazakhstan, as always, completely on the side of Russia, he only pretends to be a country "arbiter" that would Kiev talked to him.

And with Belarus have questions about the economic embargo. You'll see, but to Europe that neither that nor the other does not turn)
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Old 01-30-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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Oh realy? It's joke isn't it?) You cant say that sereous)) Kazakhstan, as always, completely on the side of Russia, he only pretends to be a country "arbiter" that would Kiev talked to him.

And with Belarus have questions about the economic embargo. You'll see, but to Europe that neither that nor the other does not turn)
Well, they have started to become a bit weary. Lukashenka has said loud and clear that: "don't try to create any Donetsks or Luhansks here". Of course both countries are friends of Russia, I didn't say that.
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Old 01-30-2015, 07:12 AM
 
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Smart move by Russia. No doubt to counter the increasing perception of disjunction with the EU on economic and political policies. Thing is I'd suggest that to improve the lot of members in the 'Union' if Russia does not inject changes into how economic decisions are made in the infrastructure of the Union surely it will not succeed.
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Old 01-30-2015, 07:22 AM
 
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Well, they have started to become a bit weary. Lukashenka has said loud and clear that: "don't try to create any Donetsks or Luhansks here". Of course both countries are friends of Russia, I didn't say that.
As so as maidan. They always so that. Just before the Europeans did not pay attention to it. This is quite natural - Belorussia and Kazakhstan independent countries, they differ from ES countries that can afford to have an independent policy.

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