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Old 02-21-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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Mate they are very dangerous, acting like ''the man on the street'' but really - they have a evil agenda comparable to the BNP.

How many loonies do people need to see in this small party before they wake up?

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Old 02-22-2015, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Mate they are very dangerous, acting like ''the man on the street'' but really - they have a evil agenda comparable to the BNP.

How many loonies do people need to see in this small party before they wake up?
A lot.

But considering that those far-right parties are a bunch of loonies they usually <snip> at some point. Check out the voting history for the FPÖ in Austria. They get votes when the Cons/Social Democrats are involved in a scandal (up to 30%), but lose those votes immediately after one of their <snip> (down to 7%).

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Old 02-22-2015, 03:29 AM
 
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It looks like all the anti-UKIP smear mongers have migrated here after the last thread on the UK forums in this topic went down disastrously for them.

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Old 02-22-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Mate they are very dangerous, acting like ''the man on the street'' but really - they have a evil agenda comparable to the BNP.

How many loonies do people need to see in this small party before they wake up?
Its just common sense, people don't seem understand how power is structured in society. Being a immigrant is hard, being poor is harder than having money flowing from your pockets yet people feel that the reason there's no jobs is because of immigrants?! OK if there is a shortage of jobs and competition that's fine but would people prefer to them all to watch daytime tv and not work? Yet people think all the immigrants are sponging off the government! Which is it are their spongers or job stealers?

Blaming the poor, blaming ethnic minorities and blaming immigrants is so morally wrong, its like the Mother blaming the Child for the problems he has later in life knowing full well that she made the child like that!

Tax dodgers, Multinational companies exploiting developing Countries, Charity money that are going into the wrong hands (like to terrorist groups and corrupt Governments), low wages, lack of affordable housing, added stress on Teenagers due to school exams, Ghettoization of ''Multicultural areas'' due to low economic mobility, an education system that doesn't encourage people from poor backgrounds to reach high goals, showing narrow representations of groups of people (perpetuating stereotypes in the media) high tuition fees and finally a government that doesn't represent the majority of the UK population.

But no its the Immigrants and benefit spongers.

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Old 02-22-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Blighty
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Its just common sense, people don't seem understand how power is structured in society. Being a immigrant is hard, being poor is harder than having money flowing from your pockets yet people feel that the reason there's no jobs is because of immigrants?! OK if there is a shortage of jobs and competition that's fine but would people prefer to them all to watch daytime tv and not work? Yet people think all the immigrants are sponging off the government! Which is it are their spongers or job stealers?

Blaming the poor, blaming ethnic minorities and blaming immigrants is so morally wrong, its like the Mother blaming the Child for the problems he has later in life knowing full well that she made the child like that!

Tax dodgers, Multinational companies exploiting developing Countries, Charity money that are going into the wrong hands (like to terrorist groups and corrupt Governments), low wages, lack of affordable housing, added stress on Teenagers due to school exams, Ghettoization of ''Multicultural areas'' due to low economic mobility, an education system that doesn't encourage people from poor backgrounds to reach high goals, showing narrow representations of groups of people (perpetuating stereotypes in the media) high tuition fees and finally a government that doesn't represent the majority of the UK population.

But no its the Immigrants and benefit spongers.

Oh the sanctimony.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:53 AM
 
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From what I've seen UKIP are not against minorities, but the fact that there has been an oversupply of unskilled labour from Poland and other countries that have joined the EU since 2004. How is that in any way racist? Come on you guys...
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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From what I've seen UKIP are not against minorities, but the fact that there has been an oversupply of unskilled labour from Poland and other countries that have joined the EU since 2004. How is that in any way racist? Come on you guys...
In terms of what they stand for UKIP aren't racist, but liberals despise them for even daring to make immigration a talking point. Hence the name-calling, constant maligning, and at the lowest ebb use of the R-word.

Though I would be generically classified as "Caucasian", I come from an immigrant family and I'd happily vote for them.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:59 AM
 
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I can post TENS of articles and videos of clearly racist high ranking members of UKIP. If that was the government it would more than likely bring it down.
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Old 02-22-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Blighty
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I can post TENS of articles and videos of clearly racist high ranking members of UKIP. If that was the government it would more than likely bring it down.
Do you want to compare that to the multitude of actual criminal convictions of sex offences, fraud, theft, child abuse charges, among others, levelled at members of the existing political triad (particularly labour and lib dem MPs)?

Where's the detailed and rigorous media examination of these degenerates?

Bottom line, every political party has scumbags. UKIP may indeed have a higher proportion of scumbags of a certain type given its leanings, but if you want to make it reflective of the party proper, their core policies, I'm afraid you're going to have to try much harder.
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Old 02-22-2015, 07:30 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Oh the sanctimony.
You disagree?

I know its them ISLAMICS TRYING TO PUSH US TO SHARIA LAW AND ISLAMIC LANGUAGE.
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