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Old 09-17-2015, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Polderland
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So true.



Your "international" site is still written in English isn't it ?
The US accounts for 75% of the native English speaker, so if you surf the English web, of course people will likely mention the US. Most natives of an other language will be more likely to go to sites in their own language. Just try a Spanish "international" website and you'll very likely see more Mexican and Spanish bashing than discussions about American.
I agree, if you surf on Dutch forums, Americans are hardly ever mentioned. Nobody thinks about them really. And why should they? Accept maybe for some immigrant sections where Dutch post who moved to America.


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Sure, but I don't think most migrants intend to go to rural areas anyway.
I was in Sweden last year in some very rural areas. A lot of villages were half empty there, because most young natives moved to the cities for work. We saw a lot of Africans on the street there. I assume they were refugees by the way they looked, dressed etc.
I don't know if that's the plan of the Swedish government, but it seemed like it.
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Europe is the crucible of American civilization. Maybe that has something to do with it.

If you move away from home, even if you do not correspond with you mother and father very often, would you not be concerned to hear that squatters have moved into you parents house?
This is a nice analogy for why we care. Europe is our cultural homeland, even if there has been a political separation between us. We are still a largely European based culture, just like our neighbors in Canada and Mexico are. We trace our ancestors back there, our language, culture and laws. We see serious damage being done to the cultures of Europe, and even physical threat from these new hostile immigrants. We are concerned, we hope nothing bad happens but yet we are worried. America still sees nations like the UK, France, Germany, Poland and Hungary as friends even if the feeling is not reciprocated. Our roots are over there so its going to take a lot for us to really not care as has been suggested we should do. We did not send hundreds of thousands of our young men over there 70 years ago for nothing, we did it because we could not just sit and watch Europe be destroyed by the Nazis and ruled by the worst kind of people imaginable. For the same reason we watch what is going on today with concern. History suggests that the people of the middle east will never embrace Western culture and that some kind of trouble is brewing.
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Old 09-18-2015, 02:04 AM
 
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The Koran told me that. Have you read it? They are to kill or subdue Infidels that don't convert to the superstition. It's what they are to do if they comply with their religion....so they are either apostates or waiting to get their orders to kill or subdue...I hope for Europe sake they are mostly apostates. Good luck to the Europeans....you're gonna need it.



We Christians have done worse things....I'm afraid.

Have you read the Bible? Equally bloody. Christians have been killing infidels and Jews until practically yesterday.

Not only that, Christians in Europe have been killing among them during centuries.

A large number of Americans descend from religious refugees, they would have been killed in Europe.
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Old 09-18-2015, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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The European continent is facing a large immigration. There were many in past, the only novelty is that this wave is massive and happens in a very short amount of time. Also it occurs in a context where Western Europe is a political entity the EU, which means that each country member isn't de facto fully free of making its own decisions.
many countries are doing what they want without listening to the EU's recomendations however. This is where we see that there is a serious need for cooperation.
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Old 09-18-2015, 02:27 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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This is a nice analogy for why we care. Europe is our cultural homeland, even if there has been a political separation between us. We are still a largely European based culture, just like our neighbors in Canada and Mexico are. We trace our ancestors back there, our language, culture and laws. We see serious damage being done to the cultures of Europe, and even physical threat from these new hostile immigrants. We are concerned, we hope nothing bad happens but yet we are worried. America still sees nations like the UK, France, Germany, Poland and Hungary as friends even if the feeling is not reciprocated. Our roots are over there so its going to take a lot for us to really not care as has been suggested we should do. We did not send hundreds of thousands of our young men over there 70 years ago for nothing, we did it because we could not just sit and watch Europe be destroyed by the Nazis and ruled by the worst kind of people imaginable. For the same reason we watch what is going on today with concern. History suggests that the people of the middle east will never embrace Western culture and that some kind of trouble is brewing.
uh, I still see the US as a friend nation, at least the people...
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Old 09-18-2015, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I grew up being taught that European cultural imperialism and colonization was a bad thing no matter what country or region it happened in.

Now I am supposed to see something similar happening in Europe and that is different somehow?
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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I grew up being taught that European cultural imperialism and colonization was a bad thing no matter what country or region it happened in.

Now I am supposed to see something similar happening in Europe and that is different somehow?
Who is colonizing Europe now? Do you know what imperialism or colonization mean?
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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This is a nice analogy for why we care. Europe is our cultural homeland, even if there has been a political separation between us. We are still a largely European based culture, just like our neighbors in Canada and Mexico are..
Wrong. You share the same culture, language and law with the UK, not so much with France, Germany or Spain.

The legal system in France is quite different from that in the US, and the lifestyle in Spain or Italy has very little in common with anywhere in the US. I can give a 1000 examples where US culture is fundamentally different from France, Germany, Spain or Italy.
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Old 09-18-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I don't think one can make such general statements. Parts of the US are closer to Britain, others are more similar to Spain, others to Germany or France. Same for Canada, some parts are more British, others more French.
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Old 09-18-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I grew up being taught that European cultural imperialism and colonization was a bad thing no matter what country or region it happened in.

Now I am supposed to see something similar happening in Europe and that is different somehow?
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Who is colonizing Europe now? Do you know what imperialism or colonization mean?
Yes, I know what imperialism and colonization mean. That is why I used the words 'something similar' instead of claiming that this current migration is colonization or imperialism. At least by the strict definition of the terms.
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