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Old 11-29-2009, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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So I was looking up populations for European cities and I'm just wondering what source is the best source to use in determining population for European cities.

I have found many sources to be different by 800,000?

So here are the main ones, which ones would you use?

EPSON, Eurostat LUZ, Minestry of Regional Development, United Nations,

Demographia.com, Scientific description by Markowski[8 , Scientific description by Swianiewicz, Klimska[9]

So here is a link to wiki but it cites all of these websites that it compares, then if you click on the city it has a different population.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_areas_in_Poland

Larger Urban Zones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 12-01-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: halifax
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when rankings quote one city's population within 17,345 km squared and another in 1,796.64 and say the one with 10 times more area is bigger because it has 16 % more people you know there's something wrong.

the best way to do it is to give every city between 10 and 20 thousand sq km's (some cities are built differently with lots of parks separating the core from the suburbs) and list their population in that area.

in north america American cities have been inflated in size because of too much area allowed in the urban, metro areas. this has made it look like their Canadian counterparts like Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver are much smaller relative to them than they really are.

for example metro Vancouver has the same population as metro Denver. but people forget that denver covers 21 thousand sq kms more area. if Vancouver covered that much it would have 4 million people and be similar to Seattle.
likewise metro Chicago covers almost 30,000 sq km's while metro Toronto is only 7,125 sq kms. if Toronto was allowed over 20,000 sq kms it would have 8.5-9.5 million people because it would cover the horseshoe area and green belt around the city. that area could surpass metro Chicago in population by 2012 because Toronto is one of the fastest growing cities in the world (cities in that area like peterborough are expected to be 1.5 or more times larger in population by the next census), but you wouldn't know it unless Toronto starts calling the horseshoe area metro Toronto.

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Old 12-01-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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Using a such method is bad.
Metro area population are mesured by commuter patern, not by land size or density.

The density change depending the region, it is not because there is more people in a XXXX km² around A city than in B city that A city is more populated than B city.
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:19 AM
 
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Perhaps this site might be of help. I would think that one problem might be that there is no EU-wide census; thus, data may be from different years, using different criterea. But maybe it will be useful.

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Old 12-02-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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So I was looking up populations for European cities and I'm just wondering what source is the best source to use in determining population for European cities.

I have found many sources to be different by 800,000?

So here are the main ones, which ones would you use?

EPSON, Eurostat LUZ, Minestry of Regional Development, United Nations,

Demographia.com, Scientific description by Markowski[8 , Scientific description by Swianiewicz, Klimska[9]

So here is a link to wiki but it cites all of these websites that it compares, then if you click on the city it has a different population.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_areas_in_Poland

Larger Urban Zones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Try CIA World Factbook.

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