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Old 07-02-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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In what universe are Ohio and Illinois Upper Midwestern states? They border Southern states, for crying out loud.
They're on the border of Southern states, but culturally they are not Southern.
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Sure, but the obvious point was that they are certainly not "Upper Midwestern" states. And southern IL has as much of a southern feel as the Missouri boot - Shawnee is south of most of Kentucky. Ever been there? A blend, sure, but much more Arkansas than Minnesota.
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