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Old 04-25-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Based on no other information.

1. Someone who's moved from California to Texas
2. Someone who's moved from Texas to California
3. Someone who was born in California and still lives there

And why?
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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1. If they're older, they're conservative and hate the way California has become so liberal. If they're young, they're either liberal or moderate and moved for lower COL, school, or job opportunities.

2. Always liberal.

3. If they're older, almost always conservative. The old white people born and raised in CA their entire lives are often very very conservative. Maybe today less so since the more conservative California natives that are retiring are likely going to cheaper COL and lower tax places like LV, Phoenix, and Texas. If they're younger, almost always liberal. Very few conservative spots remain in the developed parts of CA. The only actual conservatives in every way that I know of were from Glendora/San Dimas area, but even they were pro LGBT. Some are from the South Bay and South OC, but again, generally not homophobic. They just vote for homophobic politicians and systemic racism, while not outwardly portraying themselves as such.

Ranking from liberal to conservative:
2>3>1
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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It's stupid to judge people simply from where they're from, and where they're going.

Without knowing his/her beliefs, each of those persons in the example are a blank slate, and are/should be equal.

I've known people from both of those states running the gamut of political belief, so there's further proof that location can be meaningless.

Americans show their foolishness in their rush to assume and judge others. Many live their entire lives in autopilot mode, responding based on myths and stereotypes, with little to no actual thinking, analyzing, and processing. Nice. Cue the synthetic applause from plastic hands...

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Old 04-25-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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It's stupid to judge people simply from where they're from, and where they're going.

Without knowing his/her beliefs, each of those persons in the example are a blank slate, and are/should be equal.

I've known people from both of those states running the gamut of political belief, so there's further proof that location can be meaningless.

Americans show their foolishness in their rush to assume and judge others.
Same. I was just answer the question with what I'd assume. Clearly my stereotypes are going to wrong a huge number of times.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Well, you either get actual data, or you assume. And which way you go will be very revealing.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Well, you either get actual data, or you assume. And which way you go will be very revealing.
Based on the 2018 midterm exit polls Americans that move to Texas are more conservative than native Texas who are more conservative than immigrants.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:21 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Same. I was just answer the question with what I'd assume. Clearly my stereotypes are going to wrong a huge number of times.
Yeah, that was why I put "based on no other information" in the OP - just what your gut feeling would tell you.

I'm trying to gauge what people perceive as having the greatest influence on political attitudes: where you grew up (1), where you have chosen to move (2), or whether you still live where you grew up (3). I'm actually specifically interested in what the stereotypes are, not what actual data would say.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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Well, you either get actual data, or you assume. And which way you go will be very revealing.
I did assume. Because OP asked me to. Sorry you don't like my answer, but this is a public forum and I only responded to what OP asked. Stop being so sensitive and either contribute to the conversation or don't respond.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: OC
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1. If they're older, they're conservative and hate the way California has become so liberal. If they're young, they're either liberal or moderate and moved for lower COL, school, or job opportunities.

2. Always liberal.

3. If they're older, almost always conservative. The old white people born and raised in CA their entire lives are often very very conservative. Maybe today less so since the more conservative California natives that are retiring are likely going to cheaper COL and lower tax places like LV, Phoenix, and Texas. If they're younger, almost always liberal. Very few conservative spots remain in the developed parts of CA. The only actual conservatives in every way that I know of were from Glendora/San Dimas area, but even they were pro LGBT. Some are from the South Bay and South OC, but again, generally not homophobic. They just vote for homophobic politicians and systemic racism, while not outwardly portraying themselves as such.

Ranking from liberal to conservative:
2>3>1
Once again, I agree with you. I will say I know conservatives who live in liberal cities just because they're better cities.
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Old 04-25-2019, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Furthest right - Someone who's moved from California to Texas
In between - Someone who was born in California and still lives there
Furthest left - Someone who's moved from Texas to California

It's possible that migrants from California to Texas could contribute to tilting BOTH states a little to the left, if they tend to be less liberal than other Californians and less conservative than other Texans (in a very general sense, of course).

California is a difficult state to move into these days due to the cost of living, so it makes little sense to relocate there for those who dislike its predominantly liberal environment, unless they have very specific career or family circumstances. I have actually lived in both states before and although I have little inclination to return to either state, Texas would be more likely than California. Like some other posters have noted, more liberal cities in conservative states can offer a good balance.
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