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Ok, I don't think people who supported FDR New Deal type policies can be described as conservatives. The south shifted to the right as it became more middle class and suburban. The majority of conservatives / Republicans live in the suburbs in the south and other regions.
The south didn't shift to the right, it's always been right of center. The south migrated to republicans. after the Democrat party abandoned it in the 60s. It always surprises me how many people forget that it was a Republican that ended slavery, and that traditional confederate states were staunchly blue until LBJ started rebranding the party in the 1960s.
It was the Democratic party that filibustered the Civil RIghts ACt of 1964. Robert Byrd and Al Gore's father. Neither of them switched parties. Why would white racists switch to the GOP? The Civil rights legislation was pushed by the GOP in Congress.
How can people who support FDR and other New Deal type policies be conservative? There is a big difference between Ronald Reagan and FDR/ LBJ politics. In 1932, 98 percent of voters in SC voted for FDR. SC was obviously much more rural and poor back then.
The south switched to GOP as more middle class educated people moved down from the north and other regions. That's why the Carolinas, Virginia, Florida and TN voted for Nixon but the other southern states with less transplants voted for George Wallace.
Another reason is issues like gun control and abortion were not big issues back in the day, and the GOP wins a lot of votes based on their stance on those two issues alone.
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Not always the case: Vermont is STILL the most rural state AND among the most liberal as well.
I mean is Vermont more rural than some of the Rocky Mountain States? Wyoming, Montana, Idaho. Vermont doesn't have any big cities but in Vermont you're never far away from a town with a gas station.
I mean is Vermont more rural than some of the Rocky Mountain States? Wyoming, Montana, Idaho. Vermont doesn't have any big cities but in Vermont you're never far away from a town with a gas station.
It is not, here are the most least dense states (per sq mi)
Wow, I wouldn't have guessed Oregon was that rural. I guess the square mile size of that state, including how far south and east it goes, makes it less dense than people realize? And am slightly surprised West Virginia didn't make this list, but I guess its cities(i.e. Huntington, Charleston, Beckley, Morgantown, etc) have just enough population, for it to not make the top 20?
Ok, I don't think people who supported FDR New Deal type policies can be described as conservatives. The south shifted to the right as it became more middle class and suburban. The majority of conservatives / Republicans live in the suburbs in the south and other regions.
They might have supported FDR's economic populism, however they were staunch social conservatives
They might have supported FDR's economic populism, however they were staunch social conservatives
I don't believe FDR's economic views can be described as populism. I believe people on the left today rank FDR as one of the best presidents. There wasn't 'social conservatism' in the way that you mean it back then because those were not even issues.
My main point is that most conservatives live in suburbs, not rural areas. I see people often trying to associate conservatives with rural areas on here, to imply that conservatives are poor and uneducated.
I mean is Vermont more rural than some of the Rocky Mountain States? Wyoming, Montana, Idaho. Vermont doesn't have any big cities but in Vermont you're never far away from a town with a gas station.
Vermont is tiny...9,623 sq miles. For instance Idaho has 83,642 sq miles and much of that is mountains and wilderness.
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Wow, I wouldn't have guessed Oregon was that rural. I guess the square mile size of that state, including how far south and east it goes, makes it less dense than people realize? And am slightly surprised West Virginia didn't make this list, but I guess its cities(i.e. Huntington, Charleston, Beckley, Morgantown, etc) have just enough population, for it to not make the top 20?
Yeah, the western states are large land wise with a lot of that land not inhabited.
Vermont is tiny...9,623 sq miles. For instance Idaho has 83,642 sq miles and much of that is mountains and wilderness.
Yeah, the western states are large land wise with a lot of that land not inhabited.
Yeah that's kind of what I'm saying Vermont mostly is inhabited. There's no city with 700,000 people but there are a bunch of cities with a few thousand people all over the state.
My main point is that most conservatives live in suburbs, not rural areas. I see people often trying to associate conservatives with rural areas on here, to imply that conservatives are poor and uneducated.
As an example, here are the SC county results from the presidential election. Hillary won several of the most rural counties by a wide margin.
Hillary won 11 rural counties. Trump won 19. They both won 7 rural counties by 60%. And they both had 8 counties in the bottom 16 in income.
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