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View Poll Results: Which metro areas are best for conservatives/evangelicals/etc.
Los Angeles/Orange County 9 4.27%
Seattle 6 2.84%
New York 8 3.79%
Washington DC/Northern Virginia 7 3.32%
Dallas 64 30.33%
Phoenix 29 13.74%
Colorado Springs 67 31.75%
Austin 13 6.16%
St. Louis 11 5.21%
Cincinnati 37 17.54%
Louisville, KY 40 18.96%
Denver 15 7.11%
Houston 43 20.38%
San Diego 20 9.48%
Nashville 71 33.65%
Atlanta 44 20.85%
Kansas City 34 16.11%
Cleveland 6 2.84%
Philadelphia 5 2.37%
Detroit 7 3.32%
Minneapolis 8 3.79%
Portland, OR 5 2.37%
Charlotte 57 27.01%
Chicago 6 2.84%
Buffalo, NY 4 1.90%
Baltimore 2 0.95%
Miami 5 2.37%
Oklahoma City 101 47.87%
Milwaukee 11 5.21%
Other (please specify) 19 9.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 211. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-18-2007, 12:12 PM
 
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I see a lot of apples and organges being discussed here. A few things to keep in mind:
1. Not all Democrates are "liberals"
2. Not all Republicans are conservatives.
3. Many liberals who are antiwar are also anti-abortion
4. Many Democrats are against gay marriage.
5. Not all progressives are Democrats.
6. Not all Democrats are progessives.
7. Not all Republicans support the Iraq war
8. Not all Democrats are against the death penalty.
9. (picking up on an unbelievable post on another thread today) Not all liberals fail to fly the flag in front of their homes.

Etc.
Etc.

Contrary to what Rush Limbaugh et al. (and some of the posters here!) would have us believe, Americans don't fit neatly into just 2 groups. (Too bad they don't though. Would make it a lot easier to marginalize and hate our fellow countrymen if they did. And we wouldn't have to do all that dad-gum thinkin!)
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:52 PM
 
Location: The Springs
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A new nationwide study released by the nonpartisan Bay Area Center for Voting Research (BACVR) ranks the political leanings of every American city and finds that Detroit, Michigan is the most liberal and Provo, Utah the most conservative.


Americas 25 Most Conservative Cities(in descending order):

Rank City State
1 Provo Utah
2 Lubbock Texas
3 Abilene Texas
4 Hialeah Florida
5 Plano Texas
6 Colorado Springs Colorado
7 Gilbert Arizona
8 Bakersfield California
9 Lafayette Louisiana
10 Orange California
11 Escondido California
12 Allentown Pennsylvania
13 Mesa Arizona
14 Arlington Texas
15 Peoria Arizona
16 Cape Coral Florida
17 Garden Grove California
18 Simi Valley California
19 Corona California
20 Clearwater Florida
21 West Valley City Utah
22 Oklahoma City Oklahoma
23 Overland Park Kansas
24 Anchorage Alaska
25 Huntington Beach California

Most liberal:

1 Detroit Michigan
2 Gary Indiana
3 Berkeley California
4 Washington, D.C. Dist. of Columbia
5 Oakland California
6 Inglewood California
7 Newark New Jersey
8 Cambridge Massachusetts
9 San Francisco California
10 Flint Michigan
11 Cleveland Ohio
12 Hartford Connecticut
13 Paterson New Jersey
14 Baltimore Maryland
15 New Haven Connecticut
16 Seattle Washington
17 Chicago Illinois
18 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
19 Birmingham Alabama
20 St. Louis Missouri
21 New York New York
22 Providence Rhode Island
23 Minneapolis Minnesota
24 Boston Massachusetts

Study Ranks America’s Most Liberal and Conservative Cities

There you have it... Actually, those who suggest Salt Lake as conservative should take note: The "City of Salt Lake" is relatively liberal, look at their current mayor Rocky Anderson, one of the most liberal mayors in the country.

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Old 09-18-2007, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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What's interesting is that California leads all states in the top 25 most conservative cities with 8.


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Originally Posted by Kar54 View Post
A new nationwide study released by the nonpartisan Bay Area Center for Voting Research (BACVR) ranks the political leanings of every American city and finds that Detroit, Michigan is the most liberal and Provo, Utah the most conservative.


Americas 25 Most Conservative Cities(in descending order):

Rank City State
1 Provo Utah
2 Lubbock Texas
3 Abilene Texas
4 Hialeah Florida
5 Plano Texas
6 Colorado Springs Colorado
7 Gilbert Arizona
8 Bakersfield California
9 Lafayette Louisiana
10 Orange California
11 Escondido California
12 Allentown Pennsylvania
13 Mesa Arizona
14 Arlington Texas
15 Peoria Arizona
16 Cape Coral Florida
17 Garden Grove California
18 Simi Valley California
19 Corona California
20 Clearwater Florida
21 West Valley City Utah
22 Oklahoma City Oklahoma
23 Overland Park Kansas
24 Anchorage Alaska
25 Huntington Beach California

Most liberal:

1 Detroit Michigan
2 Gary Indiana
3 Berkeley California
4 Washington, D.C. Dist. of Columbia
5 Oakland California
6 Inglewood California
7 Newark New Jersey
8 Cambridge Massachusetts
9 San Francisco California
10 Flint Michigan
11 Cleveland Ohio
12 Hartford Connecticut
13 Paterson New Jersey
14 Baltimore Maryland
15 New Haven Connecticut
16 Seattle Washington
17 Chicago Illinois
18 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
19 Birmingham Alabama
20 St. Louis Missouri
21 New York New York
22 Providence Rhode Island
23 Minneapolis Minnesota
24 Boston Massachusetts

Study Ranks America’s Most Liberal and Conservative Cities

There you have it... Actually, those who suggest Salt Lake as concervative should take note: The "City of Salt Lake" is relatively liberal, look at their current mayor Rocky Anderson, one of the most liberal mayors in the country.

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Old 09-18-2007, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Dallas. There are churches non-stop and most here are Republican.
They are not, however, in the City of Dallas. The City of Dallas is becoming more liberal by the year and is becoming more democratic as well. Until their recent mayor, they never voted republican. There was a study last year that put it as the most liberal city in Texas. In fact, Kay just posted the link. Also, Kerry and Gore for that matter won the city of Dallas. Bush only one Dallas County 51%-50%.

The cities of Dallas, Houston,and especially Austin, should not be mentioned in this thread as far as a conservative republican standpoint. Their suburbs are. But the cities are not. Especially Austin. I don't understand how anyone even said Austin on purpose.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Once again, Atlanta is an overall liberal city/metro.
Well. The city of Atlanta is very liberal. But the metro sure isn't. There are some very conservative areas as well. One needs to take a look at Gwinnett and Cobb County to see that.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:24 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Well. The city of Atlanta is very liberal. But the metro sure isn't. There are some very conservative areas as well. One needs to take a look at Gwinnett and Cobb County to see that.
Maybe so, but St. Louis' suburbs are not conservative for the most part. You have St. Charles County being conservative, but that's overall it. the Metro East in Illinois is very liberal, and St. Louis County is liberal as well as St. Louis City. So as far as being the most conservative, St. Louis doesn't come even close to being one of the most conservative. It is one of the most liberal.
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:19 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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I find it hard to believe that Charlotte was left out. A lot of Bible thumper s come from there . The colleges , the churches , and most of the people I have met..........
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:05 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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Most liberal:

1 Detroit Michigan
2 Gary Indiana
3 Berkeley California
4 Washington, D.C. Dist. of Columbia
5 Oakland California
6 Inglewood California
7 Newark New Jersey
8 Cambridge Massachusetts
9 San Francisco California
10 Flint Michigan
11 Cleveland Ohio
12 Hartford Connecticut
13 Paterson New Jersey
14 Baltimore Maryland
15 New Haven Connecticut
16 Seattle Washington
17 Chicago Illinois
18 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
19 Birmingham Alabama
20 St. Louis Missouri
21 New York New York
22 Providence Rhode Island
23 Minneapolis Minnesota
24 Boston Massachusetts
Quite interesting that most of the high-crime murder capitals are on the list of "most liberal" cities. With the exception of a few...namely San Fran, Berkeley, Seattle, Providence, Minneapolis, and Cambridge....most are ghettos full of people soaking off of welfare and SSI, and using/dealing drugs and shooting each other...that's why those places are liberal...Gary, Philly, Baltimore, St Louis, Flint, Newark, Paterson, Oakland, Detroit, etc, are all gang and drug infested cities. Go figure they're liberal...."WORK" is definitely a four-letter word in those places.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:36 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Originally Posted by Kar54 View Post
A new nationwide study released by the nonpartisan Bay Area Center for Voting Research (BACVR) ranks the political leanings of every American city and finds that Detroit, Michigan is the most liberal and Provo, Utah the most conservative.


Americas 25 Most Conservative Cities(in descending order):

Rank City State
1 Provo Utah
2 Lubbock Texas
3 Abilene Texas
4 Hialeah Florida
5 Plano Texas
6 Colorado Springs Colorado
7 Gilbert Arizona
8 Bakersfield California
9 Lafayette Louisiana
10 Orange California
11 Escondido California
12 Allentown Pennsylvania
13 Mesa Arizona
14 Arlington Texas
15 Peoria Arizona
16 Cape Coral Florida
17 Garden Grove California
18 Simi Valley California
19 Corona California
20 Clearwater Florida
21 West Valley City Utah
22 Oklahoma City Oklahoma
23 Overland Park Kansas
24 Anchorage Alaska
25 Huntington Beach California

Most liberal:

1 Detroit Michigan
2 Gary Indiana
3 Berkeley California
4 Washington, D.C. Dist. of Columbia
5 Oakland California
6 Inglewood California
7 Newark New Jersey
8 Cambridge Massachusetts
9 San Francisco California
10 Flint Michigan
11 Cleveland Ohio
12 Hartford Connecticut
13 Paterson New Jersey
14 Baltimore Maryland
15 New Haven Connecticut
16 Seattle Washington
17 Chicago Illinois
18 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
19 Birmingham Alabama
20 St. Louis Missouri
21 New York New York
22 Providence Rhode Island
23 Minneapolis Minnesota
24 Boston Massachusetts

Study Ranks America’s Most Liberal and Conservative Cities

There you have it... Actually, those who suggest Salt Lake as conservative should take note: The "City of Salt Lake" is relatively liberal, look at their current mayor Rocky Anderson, one of the most liberal mayors in the country.

When it comes to the liberal cities, once again take into account % of black population. Birmingham Alabama is an example. Most take for granted that Alabama, a conservative state would think Birmingham is similarly conservative. Not true. Birmingham is overhelming black, therefore, overwhelmingly liberal. Same with Inglewood.
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:59 AM
 
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Birmingham is Democratic, not really "liberal", the same can be said for Detroit and a bunch of other cities on that list.
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