Is Georgia's state flag next to fall? (to buy, live)

[Dude of Gwinnett]

I highly doubt it. The Georgia Flag is similar to the original and actual confederate flag. As another poster mentioned earlier, it does not really have any stigma attached to it.

[Newsboy]

Originally Posted by bUU

I wouldn't say "under fire". A lot of proper relegation of corruptive sentimentalization of racial intolerance is going on in response to these horrific events, relegation that should have occurred anyway but for which there wasn't enough impetus to overcome the intransigence of those who are inclined toward such hatred.

How long did it take you to come up with that?!

[bUU]

Originally Posted by AnsleyPark

And then we should quit calling them the Southern states and perhaps start referring to them as the Lower states.

I question the basis for presuming that being a southern state must necessary mean being opposed to the United States or practicing racial intolerance.

Originally Posted by Newsboy

How long did it take you to come up with that?!

A few seconds. When one understands the nature of things well, and know a language, it doesn't typically take very long to express thoughts.

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by Southern man

So, after the flag, then all of the counties named after a confederate hero?
Bartow County General Francis S. Bartow (1816 – 61), Confederate political leader, and the first Confederate general killed in the American Civil War.
Cook County General Philip Cook (1817 – 94), Confederate general
Evans County General Clement Anselm Evans (1832 – 1911), a hero of the War between the States and the commander in chief of the United Confederate Veterans.
Jeff Davis County Jefferson Davis (1808 – 89), the first and only President of the Confederate States of America.
Stephens County Alexander Stephens (1812 – 83), a U.S. Congressman, the Governor of Georgia, and the first and only Vice President of the Confederate States of America.
Tift County Colonel Nelson Tift (1810 – 91), a captain in the Confederate States Navy and U.S. Congressman.
Toombs County General Robert Toombs (1810 – 85), a U.S. Senator and the Confederate States Secretary of State.
Turner County Captain Henry Gray Turner (1839 – 1904), a U.S. Congressman and a hero of the War between the States.
Wheeler County General Joseph Wheeler (1836 – 1906), a U.S. Congressman and a hero of the War Between the States

I guess you could tackle Stone Mountain next. Then life would be good, just milk and honey.

Very generous use of the word "hero." Do heroes exist on the side fighting for massive human suffering and oppression?

Those counties are largely regressive so I wouldn't worry too much about their names being changed. Unless pressured to do so by the business community or at the risk of a PR disaster, Georgia's not going to fight that battle.

Yes, erasing the embarrassing monument on the face of Stone Mountain would be most excellent. Also removing the Confederate flag that still (STILL?!) flies at the base of the walk-up trail.

Wasn't our current state flag chosen as some sort of compromise? What kind of compromise is it to remove the controversial symbol and replace it with one that represents the exact same thing, only with less recognition? And for those who believe it represents "Southern heritage," why can't we have an all-inclusive symbol of southern heritage and not one that represents white supremacy? This is a very diverse region and one with many qualities worth celebrating. It can't be that difficult.

[Southern man]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

Very generous use of the word "hero." Do heroes exist on the side fighting for massive human suffering and oppression?

Those counties are largely regressive so I wouldn't worry too much about their names being changed. Unless pressured to do so by the business community or at the risk of a PR disaster, Georgia's not going to fight that battle.

Yes, erasing the embarrassing monument on the face of Stone Mountain would be most excellent. Also removing the Confederate flag that still (STILL?!) flies at the base of the walk-up trail.

Wasn't our current state flag chosen as some sort of compromise? What kind of compromise is it to remove the controversial symbol and replace it with one that represents the exact same thing, only with less recognition? And for those who believe it represents "Southern heritage," why can't we have an all-inclusive symbol of southern heritage and not one that represents white supremacy? This is a very diverse region and one with many qualities worth celebrating. It can't be that difficult.

Ok, erase the embarrassing monument and remove the flag at the base, then life will be good, just milk and honey? Or is their something else? We know there is.

[Pemgin]

Removing symbols of white supremacy on public property and government seals seems reasonable. That's enough. "Milk and honey" would be everyone rejecting symbols of inequality and embracing all as equals. But that's not likely to happen. People are only asking that it not be on the symbols of government (flags, etc.); governments that are supposed to be representative of everyone.

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by Southern man

I guess you could tackle Stone Mountain next.

Speaking of which, why are images of Lee and Jackson, who fought in the East, up there instead of rebels who fought in Georgia? Like Bragg, Hood or Joe Johnston? Or that fool Polk? How about Cheatham and Breckinridge sharing a snort?

I see they recently put a statue of Cleburne, one of the few good Confederate generals in the West, in Ringgold Gap. Of course he was stalled at division command, in an army full of incompetent corps commanders, because he naively advocated freeing Blacks and using them as Confederate soldiers.

[VanHalen5150]

It's absurd that Georgia changed it's state flag from what it was to something related to the confederacy at all. It's insulting, pick something not related with terrorism and racism. They had an opportunity to fix this the last time they changed it, and blew it then too

[bUU]

To be fair, the Confederacy was not as much about racism (any more than the Union was) at the time as compared to how much the battle flag later become to be a symbol of racism. The advancement of the spiritual maturity of the United States involves not quashing religious reactionaryism and conservatism, but rather cleansing away the immoral artifacts (such as racism) that have either been stuck onto or are core aspects of religious reactionaryism and conservatism when those immoral artifacts affect society outside the boundaries of the bodies, families, homes and churches of those who wish to revel in such immoral artifacts.

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by bUU

To be fair, the Confederacy was not as much about racism (any more than the Union was) at the time as compared to how much the battle flag later become to be a symbol of racism.

To be fair, at the time several of the rebelling states , including Georgia, were quite clear in proclaiming they were rebelling to protect the institution of slavery. Note too that the constitution of the rebel government forbade a state making slavery illegal.

http://www.civil-war.net/pages/georgia_declaration.asp

Also, to be fair, the Federal government went to war to suppress rebellion, not to end slavery. It was no holy war to end slavery, though suppression of rebellion was good reason enough.