Californians prepare to descend on Georgia to fight for Democrats in Senate races (Columbus: hotel, home)

[woxyroxme]

Originally Posted by markjames68

I do think it’s ironic that a lot of the money came from San Francisco, where housing affordability is the worst in the nation, and there are needles and feces on the streets. But hey, let’s send money to Georgia so it can turn into another San Francisco.

San Francisco is more of a European city like Paris or Milan.



This is something I actually received in the mail here in Ohio, it was cut out of a cardstock box and had a San Francisco post mark. Why these people don’t do anything about the numerous problems that they have in their own back yard and have to mess with an area that is far better off is beyond me.

[Born 2 Roll]

Originally Posted by markjames68

"The runoff election has fired up Democrats from out of state. According to campaign finance data, more than 83% of funds for Ossof’s campaign came from outside Georgia, as did nearly 80% of funds for Warnock’s fall campaign."

Of course nobody supporting them sees a problem with this.

It doesn’t look like anybody on the opposing side sees a problem with it either.

That’s because most of the money that the GOP is raising (over $32 million as of the end of last week) appears to be coming from outside of Georgia by way of a fundraising effort (that is being chaired by national GOP figure and veteran political strategist Karl Rove) that the GOP itself is openly admitting is nationalized in a pair of races for party control of the U.S. Senate that just by their very nature is going to be nationalized.

In a pair of races this pivotal (with control of the US Senate to be decided by twin runoff races in the same state), there is no way that either party (Democrats or Republicans) could raise enough money from in-state interests alone to be competitive enough to have a shot at winning such an extremely high-stakes pair of senate runoff contests with national political implications.

(It should be noted that the $32 million that the GOP had raised at the end of last week for these runoff races was but only about a quarter of their fundraising goal which appears to be somewhere in the neighborhood of at least $120 million... for a two-month runoff.)

[Suesbal]

The Donald bowed his head because he knew that he’d been beat
And he laid that golden toilet on the ground at Biden’s feet

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by markjames68

Zoning might be apolitical, but lack of enforcement isn’t. This article predates COVID, which likely has only made things worse.

https://www.city-journal.org/san-francisco-homelessness

I personally feel its more so the laxed policies toward certain matters than the enforcement and I also agree that it is an issue, no specific minority, race, or income class should have additional privileges or leverages over another. To be fair though I still feel SF is a fairly safe city overall. I mean, I can still think of far more unsafe places than SF.

[Born 2 Roll]

Originally Posted by markjames68

I don't think either will pull it off, but I welcome the attention and the money spent here in Georgia!

Despite all the pushing, you won't get the same urban/minority turnout as what happened during the general election. The prospect of losing the senate and the rhetoric of "socialists taking over" will spur the rural vote to turn out.

I think it will be close, but not historically so. Warnock will get closer than Ossoff.

I agree with the assessment that the Democrats (Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff) appear to be at a noticeable disadvantage in their runoff races.

But with such massive amounts of money and with so much attention being focused solely on these two races, I suspect that the Democrats may be much more motivated to put up an actual fight in these runoffs than they might have been in past statewide runoffs where Democratic Party (voter, organization and fundraising) attention seemed to almost completely wane, if not just outright disappear, after Election Day.

If Democrats can’t put up a fight to seriously compete in a runoff in a state that they just won in the Presidential Election, then they probably shouldn’t be in the political business anymore.

Both incumbent Republican Senators Loeffler and Perdue have the advantage in these races, but as the old adage goes in Georgia politics, “Anything can happen in a runoff,” and if Democrats decide to show up and actually compete in this runoffs, victory may not necessarily be as much of a given for the GOP as past trends might seem to indicate.

[Suesbal]

So much for getting money out of politics.

[ronricks]

Between his failed House bid and now this how much money has Ossoff blown through at this point? Does anyone have a count? Must be nice to be an unemployed Trust Fund baby that gets to play with other peoples money. Where do I sign up for that gig at?

[markjames68]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

I personally feel its more so the laxed policies toward certain matters than the enforcement and I also agree that it is an issue, no specific minority, race, or income class should have additional privileges or leverages over another. To be fair though I still feel SF is a fairly safe city overall. I mean, I can still think of far more unsafe places than SF.

Sure, I've felt less safe in Johannesburg, or in Sao Paulo. I don't think overall SF is a safety issue, it's a quality of life issue. To think that your child could pick up a blood/heroin-filled syringe from the street is scary.

[markjames68]

Originally Posted by Born 2 Roll

Both incumbent Republican Senators Loeffler and Perdue have the advantage in these races, but as the old adage goes in Georgia politics, “Anything can happen in a runoff,” and if Democrats decide to show up and actually compete in this runoffs, victory may not necessarily be as much of a given for the GOP as past trends might seem to indicate.

I agree entirely. If Perdue thinks he can "good 'ole boy" this without putting in a fight he might very well get surprised.

I also agree money is pouring in from both sides outside Georgia, and I'm not a fan. But I haven't seen news (yet - I'm sure it exists) of many people on the other side of the country wanting to move to GA temporarily so they can vote for Republicans.

Should someone nominally decide before December 7th (the final date to register to vote) that they are moving to GA and then leaving shortly thereafter I hope that our state prosecutes them fully. And it won't be that hard to tell - if someone gets a license here, and then returns to their home state and switches back, GA will find out.

[Beach Sportsfan]

It is going to come down to which side can get its base to the polls. Without the Presidency on the ballot many will not vote. The problem is that I don’t see any of the four candidates as great candidates. All ads I see from both sides but specially from the Republican side are negative ads. What do they stand for?

What do Perdue and Loeffler have to run on? What have they done?