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Old 05-16-2015, 01:05 AM
 
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I was thinking, serial killers are horrible people that are locked away for life and have no redeeming qualities, other than their ability to kill and not think twice about it. Otherwise they just waste money and air that should be left for decent folk.

So anyway, what if we could put them to good use? Make them parachute behind enemy lines where they can do all the killing they want only this time it's bad guys. It's really a win-win. There's a good chance the serial killer would go on to serial kill our enemies and even if they do manage to stop him he's either their problem to feed/clothe or they kill him in which case no loss.

Why not put these serial killers abilities to good use?
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Old 05-16-2015, 05:33 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Who's going to train them?
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:35 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You know, this "idea" to send violent criminals into the military instead of to prison pops up from time to time. Usually from someone who needs to get another hobby.

Why would anyone, ever, believe that someone who has demonstrated an inability to follow rules would be a good fit as a sailor/Marine/airman/soldier?

The Dirty Dozen was a movie.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Serial Killers are cowards that have psychological problems. They prey on people perceived as weaker than them.
In a war zone when the bullets started flying they would be running.

I say once they are found guilty of their crimes then lay them out in a hospital OR, harvest their organs then up the IV so they never wake up. Done and good people who need a second chance get the organs.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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I was thinking, serial killers are horrible people that are locked away for life and have no redeeming qualities, other than their ability to kill and not think twice about it. Otherwise they just waste money and air that should be left for decent folk.

So anyway, what if we could put them to good use? Make them parachute behind enemy lines where they can do all the killing they want only this time it's bad guys. It's really a win-win. There's a good chance the serial killer would go on to serial kill our enemies and even if they do manage to stop him he's either their problem to feed/clothe or they kill him in which case no loss.

Why not put these serial killers abilities to good use?
Serial killers, at least the notorious ones, are usually abnormally brilliant. I bet we could find a use for them outside of military action.

And also, have you actually thought the logistics of that through? One, serial killers are not trained killers. Killing someone unarmed who doesn't already have the idea of killing you would be quite a bit easier than killing someone armed and hostile. Two, so, we would have to train them to get them to a point of being capable of fighting, not just killing. This opens up the frightening possibility that they turn on the people training them and escape from prison and become even harder to catch because now they're a trained killers. But assuming everything goes as planned up until this point, what's to keep them from going AWOL and just fleeing to the nearest Iraqi town (or which ever country we send them to) and killing the civilians or joining whatever militant group they're fighting. ISIS could use murderous sociopaths.

Nah, leave them in jail. Even if they don't serve a purpose due to their skills, we should leave people like that alive to study them and figure out how they work. Understanding what leads to this kind of psychopath can lead us to preventing them from existing in the first place, which is far more constructive than having them fight some bureaucrat's war or executing them.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Europe
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No. It would be letting a satan lead.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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Serial killers kill because they want to kill not because they have been ordered to kill.

You can send them anywhere and there is a high probability they will kill those they are supposed to be fighting "with" not those they are fighting "against".
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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Serial killers kill because they want to kill not because they have been ordered to kill.

You can send them anywhere and there is a high probability they will kill those they are supposed to be fighting "with" not those they are fighting "against".
Yup. Give them a gun and the other soldiers might end up dead. Turn them loose behind enemy lines and they might end up going after civilians and not the enemy's soldiers.

This is not a good idea.
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Old 05-16-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: SouthEast
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No.

Warfare takes a very strong person spiritually, morally and emotionally.
You have no idea how much absolute power the individual soldier has in warfare.
You posses the means to end lives, many of them. You are the absolute authority in certain situations.
No law, treaty, convention or rules of engagement matter if you do not posses the ability to discriminate.

When you kick down a door and enter a room full of women, children, elderly or otherwise unarmed combatants the only thing that prevents us from killing them is our ability to discriminate based on morality, training and being grounded in ethics and morals.

Another perhaps more applicable example, is this: You take a guy prisoner immediately after a firefight. Maybe he was involved, maybe not. You have him at the end of your gun. You can kill him with no repercussions whatsoever. You alone decide if he lives or dies and no one in that moment can save his life, or end it, but you. It would be easy.

Now ask yourself 2 questions
1: Do you want to place non combatants (innocent bystanders) under the control of people like this?
2: Do you want that person to wield that type of power as a representative of our country?
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Old 05-16-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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There have been some good answers here.

I'd question as well: What would be there motivation to kill anyone that "needs killing?"

What, do you think that war is merely a matter of killing anyone and everyone behind a certain line on a map? War is a counter-force activity, which differs in that aspect from terrorism.

Serial killers kill who they want when they want, and as has been mentioned, that's rarely going to be anyone that "needs killing" in order to win the war. Most likely, if/when the war is eventually won by ordinary means, our own soldiers will face the problem of taking out the serial killers ourselves...although having armed and trained them, they will be much tougher objectives.

BTW, it's seldom mentioned, but in the aftermath of WWII, gangs of trained and armed Allied deserters were a significant problem in post-war Germany and France.
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