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What's wrong with no-fault divorce? Sounds like you haven't had the joy of spending YEARS in the court system while your parents duke it out. Everyone who has ever married should stay married no matter what until they die? Well, for some they end up like Nicole Simpson. Yes, that CLEARLY is a better alternative to a divorce. Certainly is better for the children.
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Things About Marriage You Weren’t Told
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• Marriage is a joining of property rights for the benefit of progeny.
• It’s not about love, nor religion, nor access to entitlements.
• From antiquity, societies that passed property via inheritance relied on marriage for establishing the bloodline of descent.
• Failure to have descendants was a tragedy, and left land at risk, at the death of the owner.
• Violating the bloodline of inheritance, via bearing a child outside of the compact was also frowned upon.
• However, since the advent of socialism, and the abolition of private property, the importance of passing property to the next generation has been diluted if not forgotten entirely. Worse, the government now claims a portion of the inheritance as if inheritance was a revenue taxable privilege, not an endowed right.
• Remember, two people in love do not need a legally enforceable, life long contract to remained joined. That compact was to preserve the joined property for the real beneficiary of marriage - the heir.
Second chapter of the Bible has a man and woman coming together as one as the example of marriage. Peter had a mother-in-law that was mentioned in the gospels. Abraham had Sarah.
Adam and Eve were not Christians. Neither was Abraham. The Christian view of marriage can be found in Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, Chapter 7. Marriage is better than fornication, but if you marry there is no divorce and no adultery. As soon as America legalized divorce, it abandoned Christian marriage. In most cases, that happened before there was an America, and certainly before most states were part of the Union.
Marriage is one of the biggest traditions for Jews and Christians. I just don't understand why someone who isn't a Jew or a Christian would participate in it. Especially those who continuously insult Christians by calling us "idiots that worship a fantasy figure in the sky" and tell us that the bible is outdated.
I don't understand why nonbelievers get married. It wasn't for secular folks; hence why they can't handle it and end up divorced more often than believers. Marriage is a biblical concepts for those who live their lives by the bible.
53% of Very Happy Couples agree with the statement, "God is at the center of our marriage" (compared to 7% of Struggling Couples)
30% of Struggling Couples disagree with the statement, "God is at the center of our marriage."
"Active conservative protestants" who attend church regularly are actually 35% less likely to divorce than those who have no religious preferences
"Nominal" Christians (those who simply call themselves Christians but so not actively engage with the faith) are actually 20% more likely than the general population to get divorced
This is a good point. Like Easter and Christmas, Marriage has lost its meaning and purpose. It has become commercialized much like every aspect of the American experience. All of the comments about money relating to it say something. The reason is money. When a country's people and the courts weigh everything on a scale with money on the other end to balance it, the system and people have failed.
Why do people of no faith acknowledge Christmas and Easter would be another related question.
LOL. What makes you think marriage is either an invention of or exclusive to Jews and Christians?
Because it started with Christians and Jews...
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Don't look in my direction. I'd prefer a civil ceremony myself, but because the word for a civil union is shorter and has a more common meaning, I will still call it a marriage anyway. And as far as I'm concerned, it has all the meaning of a "traditional" marriage to me, like it or not. Marriage doesn't have to be religious. Christians think they might own the word, but in reality, we can all use it. And nobody has to pay a royalty to do so.
That is without doubt the funniest thing I've read in a long time. I don't suppose you're talking about people like Trump, or Josh Duggar, or Swaggart the Braggart or Kenneth Copeland or Jim Bakker or any of the rest, was it?
It could be worse. Without the evil divorce laws, you'd be stuck with that blood sucking partner the rest of your life.
Christians no longer own the word because we allowed secular folks to steal it and ruin the sanctity of marriage.
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Christians are not supposed to get married, they are supposed to live a chaste life and await the resurrection. It's right there in the bible. Marriage is not a Christian tradition, and was not allowed in the church until the 12th century.
Perhaps you would explain why someone who claims to be a Christian would ever get married.
MARRIAGE IS A CHRISTIAN TRADITION!
Lol, it's funny when folks like you try to tell em what the bible says. Crack it open again... Read 1 Corinthians 7:1-9; it clearly says, "Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."
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This is a good point. Like Easter and Christmas, Marriage has lost its meaning and purpose. It has become commercialized much like every aspect of the American experience. All of the comments about money relating to it say something. The reason is money. When a country's people and the courts weigh everything on a scale with money on the other end to balance it, the system and people have failed.
Why do people of no faith acknowledge Christmas and Easter would be another related question.
You made another wonderful point! It's all about commercialization... It was fine when an overwhelming majority of the country was Christian, but now since people don't want Christ in their life, these holidays and biblical traditions shouldn't apply to them.
You made another wonderful point! It's all about commercialization... It was fine when an overwhelming majority of the country was Christian, but now since people don't want Christ in their life, these holidays and biblical traditions shouldn't apply to them.
It's true, Easter is only of interest to Christians and Hallmark. The solstice festival long predates Christianity or the Bible, and Christians have adopted it. Originally there were 12 days of Christmas from December 25 to the feast of the epiphany on January 6 (12th night) but western Christians have abandoned that in favor of the solstice celebration, which is certainly more seasonal. The Orthodox church still celebrates the original Christian Christmas on January 6.
As for marriage, Christians are free to marry or not as the urge strikes them. Legally, anyone wishing to be married has to buy a marriage license from the county clerd, and anyone performing a marriage has to register it with the county clerk. That includes ship captains and justices as well as ministers with a state license. Churches have never been in control of marriages in the USA, have not issued marriage licenses, and certainly do not choose the county clerk. Christians need to mind their own business and not stick their noses where they do not belong.
It's one of those things that will never completely go away but it's pretty clear that the farther a society advances both socially and technologically, the less popular it becomes. Simply put, men and women no longer need each other to the extent they used to. I wont comment on the advantages and disadvantages of this...it just is what it is.
Marriage is faulty concept from the get-go. To expect two people to remain only with each other for their entire life is ridiculous. Expect them to not grow old of having sex with the same person over and over and over, and over and over. Or in many cases no sex at all. People change drastically over the course of their lives. Yet married people are expected to get along through all the changes, many to their own detriment. I think it will remain around for many, many years to come, but increasingly people are realizing the folly of entering into that contract and are choosing not too. It will gradually wane, but the die-hards with stars in their eyes will keep it alive.
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