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Old 05-20-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by bell235 View Post
of course you can have the opinions. just keep them to yourself.
Wrong. I have an opinion, I'm going to express it--tastefully, but I'm going to express it. Don't like it--TOUGH. Get over it, or get another job in a darkroom somewhere where the public can't see you (if they even still have "darkrooms").

I mean, seriously. We're not talking about guys being sleazy shouting tasteless come-ons from the construction site. We're talking about a COMPLIMENT, tastefully and gently delivered, and most of us guys when told "not interested" or "whatever" or upon being told "thanks, my husband says the same thing" are going to get the point without any hard feelings and aren't going to be all threatening or call such a woman ugly names. Yes some guys do these things and it's wrong, I agree. But gee whiz, a simple compliment gets someone's garments all in a bunch? Get over yourself, you're being completely ridiculous.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Wrong. I have an opinion, I'm going to express it--tastefully, but I'm going to express it. Don't like it--TOUGH. Get over it, or get another job in a darkroom somewhere where the public can't see you (if they even still have "darkrooms").

I mean, seriously. We're not talking about guys being sleazy shouting tasteless come-ons from the construction site. We're talking about a COMPLIMENT, tastefully and gently delivered, and most of us guys when told "not interested" or "whatever" or upon being told "thanks, my husband says the same thing" are going to get the point without any hard feelings and aren't going to be all threatening or call such a woman ugly names. Yes some guys do these things and it's wrong, I agree. But gee whiz, a simple compliment gets someone's garments all in a bunch? Get over yourself, you're being completely ridiculous.
Well, that rather says EXACTLY what we have been saying.

If we don't take a man's compliment, then there are enough situations that have changed to being hostile, hurtful.
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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A 2014 study found that 65% of US women had experienced street harassment.
National Street Harassment Report | Stop Street Harassment


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Originally Posted by Stop Street Harassment
Gender-based street harassment is unwanted comments, gestures, and actions forced on a stranger in a public place without their consent and is directed at them because of their actual or perceived sex, gender, gender expression, or sexual orientation.
If a national organization and survey describe street harassment as "Unwanted comments...forced on a stranger in a public place without their consent...because of their....gender..." then anyone should think twice before making a comment about someone's appearance if you do not know that person.

What's wrong with saying that a girl is pretty? If your comment is unwanted ~ to a stranger ~ in a public place, you are harassing her. While you may have a right to free speech about someone else's body/body part, is it so important that you risk making them uncomfortable and fearful?
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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LOL I think you knew the answer before you asked! In US, the kingdom of the emancipated female, "pretty" is low enough to get you a smack. Other places like Asia, I can say it and she is going to think I really like her --whether I do or not. The answer is almost a universal one, just give a brief sincere smile which means you noticed her and approve and simply move on. If she wants to make something positive out of it, she will.
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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Wrong. I have an opinion, I'm going to express it--tastefully, but I'm going to express it. Don't like it--TOUGH. Get over it, or get another job in a darkroom somewhere where the public can't see you (if they even still have "darkrooms").

I mean, seriously. We're not talking about guys being sleazy shouting tasteless come-ons from the construction site. We're talking about a COMPLIMENT, tastefully and gently delivered, and most of us guys when told "not interested" or "whatever" or upon being told "thanks, my husband says the same thing" are going to get the point without any hard feelings and aren't going to be all threatening or call such a woman ugly names. Yes some guys do these things and it's wrong, I agree. But gee whiz, a simple compliment gets someone's garments all in a bunch? Get over yourself, you're being completely ridiculous.
it shouldn't be that hard to refrain from commenting on a woman's appearance. but ok, if you want to express it, you can.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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As for me, due to all the PC garbage these days, I just keep my comments to myself, smile and try and be pleasant to everyone. Every compliment is a potential lawsuit. Sadly.
That's not being "PC", it's being a well-behaved human being.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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There is nothing wrong with saying a women is pretty but now a days you have to be really careful that "woman" could actually be a dude!
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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I see that point, but it wasn't the 'debate'.


I was referring to the original post and not the rabbit trails some people took it down.


So if you are offended by my post, meh. It wasn't intended that way.

Not offended in the least. Just felt like adding my perspective to the conversation.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:31 AM
 
Location: NH
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That's not being "PC", it's being a well-behaved human being.
-PC is having to watch what you say for fear of someone twisting it into something other than it is.


-A well behaved human says thank you when complimented.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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A 2014 study found that 65% of US women had experienced street harassment.
National Street Harassment Report | Stop Street Harassment




If a national organization and survey describe street harassment as "Unwanted comments...forced on a stranger in a public place without their consent...because of their....gender..." then anyone should think twice before making a comment about someone's appearance if you do not know that person.

What's wrong with saying that a girl is pretty? If your comment is unwanted ~ to a stranger ~ in a public place, you are harassing her. While you may have a right to free speech about someone else's body/body part, is it so important that you risk making them uncomfortable and fearful?
How do you, or the pretentiously titled organization you quote, know that all these women weren't whistled at by the same group of guys? And frankly, I'm not even convinced that 65% of US women have access to sidewalks. This kind of statistic is almost always heavily skewed to dense urban areas like New York. Out here where I live, you could walk down the street in a two-piece swimsuit, and no one would say a word. Unless you're a guy.

There are actually huge swaths of America where folks are well-behaved and slow to anger.
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