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Old 09-26-2016, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Originally Posted by 2mares View Post
This is 2016 not 1933.
We now have SS benefits, 401K, retirement benefits, assisted living.
. . .
Things we did not have prior to 1933.
And when socialism collapses, you will not have SocSec benefits, nor 401K, nor retirement benefits, nor tax payer funded assisted living.
In fact, you won't even have federal reserve notes (dollar bills).

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Originally Posted by 2mares View Post
The average middle class household can not afford a litter of children, nor do they have time for one. The majority of these couples choose quality over quantity.
Under the current socialist system, you are correct. The aggregate government tax load is 44% (average) per capita. With so many living off the wages of a laborer, it's no surprise the wages are "unlivable."

http://www.census.gov/govs/statetax/05staxrank.html
US Per Capita Government Spending for 2016 - Charts
2012 GDP: $15.6 T, U.S. population : 314.1 M, Per Capita : $49665.71

❏ Federal spending, per capita : $12,083.0 (percentage of GDP: 24%)
❏ State spending, per capita : $ 4,454.10 (percentage of GDP: 9%)
❏ Local spending, per capita : $ 5,308.4 (percentage of GDP: 11%)

Summed up, combined government spending takes (approx) 44% of the GDP.

 
Old 09-27-2016, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Originally Posted by Meester-Chung View Post
fashion industry is emasculating men


https://www.yahoo.com/news/hunks-fas...025107757.html
It's always been an un-admitted, iron-clad fact that women are stronger than men, and there's good reason the military have kept women out of the combat zones, due to possible up-man-ship! And it looks, increasingly, they'll get that opportunity, if not already, leaving lots of bruised ego's in the combat zones!

Feminization? Hey! Another fact, we're all 50% Man, 50% Woman, yin and yang!

I joined the Men's Liberation Movement in the early 70's (Hazards of Being a Male book very popular back then) and saw it peter out, and, from what I've heard, the millennials have resurrected it?

And what may they propose? Unequal pay for women! That's right, pay them more, and the men stay home watching Soap Opera's, doing the cooking and cleaning!
 
Old 09-27-2016, 07:30 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Do you condone sports entertainment, where admission is charged, but the student athletes are unpaid?
This seems to be way off topic here, but I for one would like to see academics and sports decoupled. Student athletes are generally there on scholarships (often generous) that non-athletes are not. That is their "pay". I would be happy to see high schools and colleges focus strictly on academics, and sports teams can be their own separate self-supporting organizations.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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BS on the "bruised egos" in combat. the results of a firefight are bruised and usually dead bodies and a few egos damned glad they are still walking around.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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So working to benefit one's family is evil. OKAY.
But working for the collectivist state is acceptable?
Do you condone sports entertainment, where admission is charged, but the student athletes are unpaid?
Or that children working in the propaganda ministry (entertainment) is acceptable, too?
This is just nuts. No I would rather not go backwards to the early 20th century. If you and those like you want to then go ahead. Just leave the rest of us alone. I doubt many of you could last that long in those days anyway.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
And when socialism collapses, you will not have SocSec benefits, nor 401K, nor retirement benefits, nor tax payer funded assisted living.
In fact, you won't even have federal reserve notes (dollar bills).


Under the current socialist system, you are correct. The aggregate government tax load is 44% (average) per capita. With so many living off the wages of a laborer, it's no surprise the wages are "unlivable."

http://www.census.gov/govs/statetax/05staxrank.html
US Per Capita Government Spending for 2016 - Charts
2012 GDP: $15.6 T, U.S. population : 314.1 M, Per Capita : $49665.71

❏ Federal spending, per capita : $12,083.0 (percentage of GDP: 24%)
❏ State spending, per capita : $ 4,454.10 (percentage of GDP: 9%)
❏ Local spending, per capita : $ 5,308.4 (percentage of GDP: 11%)

Summed up, combined government spending takes (approx) 44% of the GDP.
And what again does any of this have to do with the idea of feminization/sensitization?
 
Old 09-27-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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Summed up, combined government spending takes (approx) 44% of the GDP.
In the most recent GDP statistics published by BEA, government at all levels accounted for 17.7% of GDP by disposition. REAL MEN would have known to go to the source.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: USA
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To the OP:

Fewer wars, less crime, better health care, less religious extremism, more equality...

Shall I go on?
 
Old 09-27-2016, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Originally Posted by Freak80 View Post
To the OP:

Fewer wars, less crime, better health care, less religious extremism, more equality...

Shall I go on?
The benefits cited are the result of greater education and more respect for the individual -- what we now call the Enlightenment. That progress took a downturn when the ideas of Rousseau superseded those of Voltaire, and the followers of Marx tried to shout down those of Smith and Locke.

Your post fails to differentiate between the concept of equality of opportunity, which every foresighted person should advocate, and equality of result, which arises from the resentments of those who seek a lowest common denominator throughout society. Most of the gains made by women and minorities in recent decades are the direct result of technical advances (driven by open markets) which opened occupations in which brutalized labor is no longer the principal input, and the greatest portion of the resentment comes from those individuals (mostly male and not too bright -- or just not particularly outgoing) who have been displaced from occupations requiring raw strength and/or a forceful personality.

I can't offer an easy answer to this one; the unfortunate fact is that the post-industrial economy might offer more to those with the skills (and attitudes) to play the game, but beyond a certain age, a lot of men (and women) find their skills and credentials devalued their future prospects diminished, and it boils down to who gets stuck with Der Krapwerk. And papering this hard fact over with the gush spouted by all-female panels on daytime TV talk shows just adds fuel to the fire.

Last edited by 2nd trick op; 09-27-2016 at 08:23 PM..
 
Old 09-27-2016, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Originally Posted by Pub-911 View Post
In the most recent GDP statistics published by BEA, government at all levels accounted for 17.7% of GDP by disposition. REAL MEN would have known to go to the source.
Thanks for the kind words of support. Insults are high praise and evidence of capitulation.

US Per Capita Government Spending for 2016 - Charts
LATEST 2016 DATA

GDP: $18,472.0 billion
Population: 324.0 million

PERCAPITA:
GDP : $ 57,012.35
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FED : $ 12,345.9
STATE: $4,922.3
LOCAL: $5,459.0
TOTAL : $22,727.2
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Percent = 100 x ($22,727.2 / $57,012.35)
39% of the GDP is taxed by all government
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