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Old 05-22-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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It is said the state run lottery is very profitable for states and has brought in a lot of money, but studies have shown that the majority of the profits come from just 10% of the population, and now that some states let you buy the tickets online it is even easier to spend money. Is this good for the poor or bad? Does the money really go to fund education or is it really going somewhere else?

What Percentage Of State Lottery Money Goes To The State? | FiveThirtyEight

Do state lotteries take advantage of gambling addicts?

Here in Florida where I live there are gambling cities where they have horse racing and dog racing, both of which are said to often cause animal abuse and animal cruelty. Is racing animals okay or bad ?

Animal Defenders International : Animals in entertainment : Greyhound and Horse Racing

They have poker too, not the traditional poker like five card draw and seven card stud but something else called Texas holdem a fast game with less skill and more luck . In this kind of poker the odds are stacked against winning, but that does not stop many people from trying to play and losing a lot of money.

You can also drive to the coast and board a gambling cruise ship either for a few hours or or a few days or go to the the Indian Reservation Casino in Tampa. I know gambling will never be allowed in the Orlando area because Disney wants to keep it family friendly and will not allow it.

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/sto...sinos-benefits

Is gambling good for society or bad? Does gambling encourage addiction or is it, when kept under control and done in moderation, just harmless fun?

Gambling: Harmless Fun or a Problem With a Dangerous Addiction?

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Old 05-22-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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For some, it's harmless fun. But many are addicted and that's where the poverty and crime comes in. Those video poker and video slots are made to draw you in. Some people sit there for hours like mindless zombies until they have no more cash. I've seen elderly bused to casinos when they get their social security check and spend it all away in that one day trip. I can't stand casinos. I use to occasionally play the lottery but now I might spend $5 a year on lottery tickets just for the heck of it. Some people will spend nearly half their paycheck on lottery tickets or scratch cards. I also don't do animal racing. Not out of some animal rights moral reasons, but just don't care to throw away my money on something like that.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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My father was an addictive gambler. Would win big and then blow it all in a few weeks. He had cars repossessed and died penniless of diabetes complications in a nasty condo that he never kept up. Gambling ruined his life and in turn his family.


It all needs to go away: the lottery, dog tracks, horse racing, etc. Besides the damage to people who go overboard, dog & horse racing is plain cruel. Two horses died yesterday at The Preakness.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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this is like saying is drinking good for us, good for the economy or encouraging addition? I feel anything done in moderation, as long as it isn't against the law is just fine. Going to the race track or playing a few slots can be a fun afternoon and no more costly than a good dinner and movie. It is when it does become an addiction it is bad.
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As for mistreating the animals I have no idea. I do know the race horses are well taken care of. The question might be, is racing them bad? But then, let's ask, is riding a horse cruel regardless why he/she is being ridden. Greyhounds are bred to be fast. So again, is it cruel is a matter of opinion.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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My father was an addictive gambler. Would win big and then blow it all in a few weeks. He had cars repossessed and died penniless of diabetes complications in a nasty condo that he never kept up. Gambling ruined his life and in turn his family.


It all needs to go away: the lottery, dog tracks, horse racing, etc. Besides the damage to people who go overboard, dog & horse racing is plain cruel. Two horses died yesterday at The Preakness.
I agree. Animal racing pushes animals to the brink of their physical capacities and beyond. I am glad it is slowly being phased out. I don't think there is anything wrong with regular gambling, however. Anyone can get addicted to anything. We can ban every activity just because a small population becomes addicted to it.
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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For some, it's harmless fun. But many are addicted and that's where the poverty and crime comes in. Those video poker and video slots are made to draw you in. Some people sit there for hours like mindless zombies until they have no more cash. I've seen elderly bused to casinos when they get their social security check and spend it all away in that one day trip. I can't stand casinos. I use to occasionally play the lottery but now I might spend $5 a year on lottery tickets just for the heck of it. Some people will spend nearly half their paycheck on lottery tickets or scratch cards. I also don't do animal racing. Not out of some animal rights moral reasons, but just don't care to throw away my money on something like that.
You know I think it plays on the eldery people's boredom. They may literally think there is nothing else to do. There needs to be alternative activities set up for them. Things that are social and fun but not expensive.
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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My father was an addictive gambler. Would win big and then blow it all in a few weeks. He had cars repossessed and died penniless of diabetes complications in a nasty condo that he never kept up. Gambling ruined his life and in turn his family.


It all needs to go away: the lottery, dog tracks, horse racing, etc. Besides the damage to people who go overboard, dog & horse racing is plain cruel. Two horses died yesterday at The Preakness.

That is terrible how did they die and why?I have also heard the odds of winning many horse races are worse then they used to be because many races have less horses racing in the field then they used to so it is harder to win, the odds do not pay as well when you do.

What is the addiction to gambling ? Is it the thrill of the risk or the lure of big money ?

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Old 05-22-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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this is like saying is drinking good for us, good for the economy or encouraging addition? I feel anything done in moderation, as long as it isn't against the law is just fine. Going to the race track or playing a few slots can be a fun afternoon and no more costly than a good dinner and movie. It is when it does become an addiction it is bad.
inion
As for mistreating the animals I have no idea. I do know the race horses are well taken care of. The question might be, is racing them bad? But then, let's ask, is riding a horse cruel regardless why he/she is being ridden. Greyhounds are bred to be fast. So again, is it cruel is a matter of opinion.
This issue for me with animal's racing is not just the racehorses and greyhounds that perform well and make it to the big time but what happens to those that do not make the grade? How are they treated?
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I agree. Animal racing pushes animals to the brink of their physical capacities and beyond. I am glad it is slowly being phased out. I don't think there is anything wrong with regular gambling, however. Anyone can get addicted to anything. We can ban every activity just because a small population becomes addicted to it.

Is it a small segment of the population that is addicted or a large one? I guess I wonder if gambling is a setup that lures you in with the promise of big money, and then stacks the odds against you that you will lose.And is it ethical for states to be involved in it?

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Old 05-22-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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What is the addiction to gambling ?Is it the thrill of the risk or the lure of big money ?
There are many different reasons as to why someone might become a compulsive gambler. For example, for some, it's the opportunity (as small as it may be) to "win big" with no real effort on their part. For others, there's an element of wanting to lose to punish themselves. The reasons really are myriad.

There's also the rush of dopamine when the cards are dealt, the dice are rolled or the slot machine button is pushed. The effect has been likened to someone shooting up heroin.
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