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Local "event" going on here in Virginia today. I'm an avid supporter of 2nd Amendment gun rights, liberal gun laws and the rights to own, open carry and use guns in responsible ways, but wonder about the sense in holding rallies such as the one described. A local radio news show this morning discussed this and said that besides the 2nd Amendment issues, the organizer was also expressing concerns about other actions of the current administration. This is not going to win any support from the public at large unless the focus is placed solely on gun issues. Even the slightest implication of violence will land this guy not only on the wrong side of the law, but on the wrong side of public opinion. It also may not look good for the state of Virginia being the site of such activities.
There's a difference between a 'gun nut' and a 'nut with a gun'.
They're not doing anything illegal, but are just showing bad judgement in how they're doing it today.
I hope the Tim McVeigh Rally is a Great Success and that they get the Armed confrontation with the Zionist Occupation Government they want. Perhaps we could call it Third Manassas. I got a real kick out of people who are afraid the government is after their guns signing up for busses on the internet.
Local "event" going on here in Virginia today. I'm an avid supporter of 2nd Amendment gun rights, liberal gun laws and the rights to own, open carry and use guns in responsible ways, but wonder about the sense in holding rallies such as the one described. A local radio news show this morning discussed this and said that besides the 2nd Amendment issues, the organizer was also expressing concerns about other actions of the current administration. This is not going to win any support from the public at large unless the focus is placed solely on gun issues. Even the slightest implication of violence will land this guy not only on the wrong side of the law, but on the wrong side of public opinion. It also may not look good for the state of Virginia being the site of such activities.
There's a difference between a 'gun nut' and a 'nut with a gun'.
They're not doing anything illegal, but are just showing bad judgement in how they're doing it today.
Funny, I just got my Brady Campaign email about this. (Keep thy friends close, thy enemies closer).
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Originally Posted by Brady Campaign
Dear Brady,
The "gun rights" extremists are on the move.
Today, on the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, there's a Second Amendment march on Washington. They're not allowed to bring guns onto the National Mall, but if they had their way, someday they could march into Washington with guns at their sides. Unless we stop them. Please support the Brady Campaign today. Public safety ... even lives ... may depend on it.
This "gun free for all" is a dangerous and reckless movement that puts our communities at great risk. The mix of guns and anti-government talk out there makes makes me angrier than you can imagine.
Gun enthusiasts plainly carrying guns into Starbucks is just another example of the bullying and intimidation that is going on right now. Our campaign helped expose this extremism. We've gotten the media to talk about it, and we've rallied activists in communities from California to Virginia to show support for stronger gun laws. We need to keep the heat on.
The Brady Campaign is the voice of reason — of public safety and common sense. Guns have no place on our streets, in our schools, or places like Starbucks. Donate to the Brady Campaign to make your voice
— all the voices for common sense gun laws —
heard!
I need your support now to keep pressing home our message. We need common sense gun laws to keep dangerous people from getting their hands on guns — and parading them into our streets and neighborhoods. Please contribute to the Brady Campaign. Help us keep fighting for stronger gun laws.
You are right Workin_Hard, that public support isn't going to be swayed their way if they insist on armed resistance to social issues--it's asinine. If gun-rights supporters were standing outside with guns protesting something like Same-sex marriages, or abortion-rights, they'd be considered insane. Doing the same thing to health-care bills and tax reforms? Similar labeling applies.
Flex your rights for gun-rights by protesting gun-control--not much needed social reforms.
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Originally Posted by JournalGazette
On the lineup are several heroes of the militia movement, including Mike Vanderboegh, who advocated throwing bricks through the windows of Democrats who voted for the health care bill; Tom Fernandez, who has established a nationwide call-tree to mobilize an armed resistance to any government order to seize firearms; and former Arizona sheriff Richard Mack, who refused to enforce the Brady law and then won a Supreme Court verdict that weakened its background-check provisions.
Seriously? The Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack seems like the reasonable gun-rights supporter, as does the Tom Fernandez guy, but advocating throwing bricks through windows is juvenile vandalism--nothing greater than throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way.
And then of course, The Brady Campaign with their all to obvious fear mongering. I don't understand how people can believe their garbage.
but wonder about the sense in holding rallies such as the one described.
You wonder about the sense of holding a rally, which is a constitutionally guaranteed right. I wonder about the sense of arming oneself, which is a constitutionally guaranteed right. Now I understand why I am always wrong and you are always right.
Funny, I just got my Brady Campaign email about this. (Keep thy friends close, thy enemies closer).
You are right Workin_Hard, that public support isn't going to be swayed their way if they insist on armed resistance to social issues--it's asinine. If gun-rights supporters were standing outside with guns protesting something like Same-sex marriages, or abortion-rights, they'd be considered insane. Doing the same thing to health-care bills and tax reforms? Similar labeling applies.
Flex your rights for gun-rights by protesting gun-control--not much needed social reforms.
Seriously? The Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack seems like the reasonable gun-rights supporter, as does the Tom Fernandez guy, but advocating throwing bricks through windows is juvenile vandalism--nothing greater than throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way.
And then of course, The Brady Campaign with their all to obvious fear mongering. I don't understand how people can believe their garbage.
Richard Mack is a FORMER Sherriff of a County of 35,000 people. He was defeated for that political office
The purpose of the open carry rallies is about awareness in the laws and our 2nd amendment rights. That way the next time a soccer mom see's someone OC'ing in the local Walmart she doesn't call the police and say "there's a crazy guy walking around Walmart with a gun !!! " It's all about awareness. I personally don't open carry at the moment, and have nothing against it. Its just I live in a suburban area and even with all the OC rallies people still freak out when they see someone armed. I do carry concealed though.
And Boompa, do your research before you make an assinine comment like you did.
The purpose of the open carry rallies is about awareness in the laws and our 2nd amendment rights. That way the next time a soccer mom see's someone OC'ing in the local Walmart she doesn't call the police and say "there's a crazy guy walking around Walmart with a gun !!! " It's all about awareness. I personally don't open carry at the moment, and have nothing against it. Its just I live in a suburban area and even with all the OC rallies people still freak out when they see someone armed. I do carry concealed though.
And Boompa, do your research before you make an assinine comment like you did.
From the article:
"The Atlanta-area real estate agent organized the rally because he is upset about health care, climate control, bank bailouts, drug laws and what he sees as President Obama’s insistence on and the Democratic Congress’ capitulation to a “totalitarian socialism” that tramples individual rights."
He has every right to protest/rally. That's part of what is encompassed by the 1st Amendment and a freedom not found everywhere on Earth. BUT, if he wants to draw positive attention, then don't do it while waving a gun. If a gun is involved, then the rally should be focused on gun rights and 2nd Amendment issues.
I carry also. Not everywhere, not all the time, but when/where I feel the need to, I can. IMO, carrying open draws too much attention, legality aside. CC doesn't and no one else ever needs to know.
"The Atlanta-area real estate agent organized the rally because he is upset about health care, climate control, bank bailouts, drug laws and what he sees as President Obama’s insistence on and the Democratic Congress’ capitulation to a “totalitarian socialism” that tramples individual rights."
He has every right to protest/rally. That's part of what is encompassed by the 1st Amendment and a freedom not found everywhere on Earth. BUT, if he wants to draw positive attention, then don't do it while waving a gun. If a gun is involved, then the rally should be focused on gun rights and 2nd Amendment issues.
I carry also. Not everywhere, not all the time, but when/where I feel the need to, I can. IMO, carrying open draws too much attention, legality aside. CC doesn't and no one else ever needs to know.
I stand corrected. We have OC rallies here in MI all the time and the purpose is awareness of the laws. I assumed that this was the reason in this case as well.
That way the next time a soccer mom see's someone OC'ing in the local Walmart she doesn't call the police and say "there's a crazy guy walking around Walmart with a gun !!!
And if there IS a crazy guy walking around WalMart with a gun, the police will give her the soothing reassurance that "That's alright, Ma'am, he has a right to".
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