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Old 08-04-2018, 01:25 AM
 
Location: india
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Old 08-04-2018, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Somehow I knew their idea of foods killing us was meat and dairy, when its actually corn and refined carbs that are killing us, and the proof is what happens when you feed domesticated animals like cats, dogs, horses, livestock, etc. a high carb corn based diet.

https://www.verywellfit.com/saturate...-carbs-2241606

Fortunately within 20 years most meat in supermarkets will be lab grown.
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Old 08-04-2018, 08:06 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Please tell us specifically what parts of modern agriculture are not sustainable?
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Please tell us specifically what parts of modern agriculture are not sustainable?
The use of Petro-Chem fertilizers is NOT a sustainable practice.

The use of synthetic herbicides is NOt a sustainable practice.

Gene-splicing from animals and bacteria into plants, in the hope that one day we may be able to outperform organic crop yields, is NOT sustainable practice.
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:52 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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The use of Petro-Chem fertilizers is NOT a sustainable practice.

The use of synthetic herbicides is NOt a sustainable practice.

Gene-splicing from animals and bacteria into plants, in the hope that one day we may be able to outperform organic crop yields, is NOT sustainable practice.

I didn't ask for your fantasies.



Petro-chem fertilizers? Nitrogenous fertilizers are made by the Haber-Bosch process from Nitrogen in the air. The cheap energy is provided by fossil fuel, supplies of which will last 500 yrs+. More expensive nuclear energy can be used after that.



Mineral supplements are not made out of petroleum either.


Why aren't herbicides & pesticides sustainable? As long as we can make them, we can keep on making them. The only problem here is the natural evolutionary response of the targets: tolerance. We need to keep on finding new pesticides to keep ahead of the game. That's the way MotherNature does things. We're following suit.



Why isn't GMO sustainable? I suppose you object to the use of human insulin in treating diabetes too? That's made by the same gene splicing process used in making GMO crop seeds. We don't invent new genes. We use naturally occurring genes and put them into new species. It's an extrapolation of good old fashioned selective breeding. It won't be long before we use this technology to cure some human diseases.


I'll tell you one thing that may prove un-sustainable on the local level-- continued irrigation in CA's central valley which produces such a large part of our fruits & veggies. It's a naturally arid region, but it has remarkably favorable sunlight & temperatures. They need to exploit water sources from outside the region and that's leading to progressive salinization/alkalinization of the soil. No one is sure how long fertility can be maintained there or if new technology can be forthcoming to reverse the process.
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Old 08-05-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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We aren't killing the planet, it will be just fine without us as it's been before. We are killing ourselves.
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Old 08-05-2018, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I didn't ask for your fantasies.
I did not think I was mentioning any of your fantasies.



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... Petro-chem fertilizers?
While in college working on my Horticulture degree [UC-Fresno] 'Petro-Chem fertilizer' was the proper phrase.

It has been a few years since I graduated, has the proper terminology shifted?
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I did not think I was mentioning any of your fantasies.

While in college working on my Horticulture degree [UC-Fresno] 'Petro-Chem fertilizer' was the proper phrase.

It has been a few years since I graduated, has the proper terminology shifted?

'Petrochemical fertilizer' is still correct terminology. https://homeguides.sfgate.com/pro-co...ers-86254.html

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Old 08-06-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I was listening to Public Radio today a panel discussion they had was using the phrase 'Fossil-Fuel' Fertilizers.
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Old 08-06-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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'Petrochemical fertilizer' is still correct terminology. https://homeguides.sfgate.com/pro-co...ers-86254.html.
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... Petrochemical fertilizers are another name for the synthetic products because they are produced using large quantities of petroleum and other fossil fuels. Some common examples include ammonium nitrate, super phosphate and potassium sulfate.
Edited to add the Bold font.
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