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Old 08-09-2018, 09:20 AM
 
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I am noticing this to be common. No one opposes additional residences. They request retail, then complain where a retail development wants to locate. The result is the proposed retail development being cancelled, and more residences, storage facilities, Mattress Firm stores, money stores, etc. open.
Actually over by the Standing Springs Park in Simpsonville, the local residents there were protesting a proposed sub-division on a old horse farm. They had signs up and seemed pretty angry about it. One of their biggest concerns was traffic.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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There was a plan to implement a sales tax to do road improvements, including widening Butler Road, but the voters of Greenville County resoundingly rejected it.
Well there is that gas tax increase that went through.

And why should the sales tax be on everyone in Greenville county even though they are not using these roads for this project? I think developers should be held liable to put some money towards improvements, since these developments put money in their pockets.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Greer
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Well there is that gas tax increase that went through.

And why should the sales tax be on everyone in Greenville county even though they are not using these roads for this project? I think developers should be held liable to put some money towards improvements, since these developments put money in their pockets.
Butler Road is used by a lot of people throughout Greenville County who already live here, and it's already a pretty busy road.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:21 AM
 
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Well there is that gas tax increase that went through.

And why should the sales tax be on everyone in Greenville county even though they are not using these roads for this project? I think developers should be held liable to put some money towards improvements, since these developments put money in their pockets.
2 very good points:

1) A gas tax increase has gone through since the referendum was defeated, so I'm not sure why people keep bringing it up.

2) As a part of Greenville county council's new attitude towards development, they realize they are charging drastically less in developer's fees compared to Richland and Charleston counties. Why should it be all on the taxpayers to fund major improvements?
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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As someone who lives right near the corner of Ashmore Bridge and Butler road I can tell you first hand every day between 5pm and 6pm traffic is a NIGHTMARE. Laurens road heading from Greenville into Mauldin is pretty horrible too.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:03 AM
 
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2 very good points:

1) A gas tax increase has gone through since the referendum was defeated, so I'm not sure why people keep bringing it up.

2) As a part of Greenville county council's new attitude towards development, they realize they are charging drastically less in developer's fees compared to Richland and Charleston counties. Why should it be all on the taxpayers to fund major improvements?
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As someone who lives right near the corner of Ashmore Bridge and Butler road I can tell you first hand every day between 5pm and 6pm traffic is a NIGHTMARE. Laurens road heading from Greenville into Mauldin is pretty horrible too.
There are just not enough residents speaking up at the planning commission meetings. I've seen a few attempts to organize large presences at these meetings, but even when that happens the board ignores the pleas.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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As someone who lives right near the corner of Ashmore Bridge and Butler road I can tell you first hand every day between 5pm and 6pm traffic is a NIGHTMARE. Laurens road heading from Greenville into Mauldin is pretty horrible too.
I’m getting a new house built right off Ashmore Bridge Road. Lol...oops.
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Old 08-11-2018, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Tigerville, SC
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It's really funny- these discussions sound exactly like ones I heard in FL for years. As soon as someone arrives, they want the borders closed and the construction stopped so it won't get too crowded. Like FL, most areas are actively encouraging rampant growth without any regard to where people are going to live, and how they're going to get from one place to another. Where I lived, my commute was 5 miles, featured 11 traffic lights, and could take up to 40 minutes during evening rush. It did NOT go through a retail area! That's why we live out in the country (for now).
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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Butler Road is used by a lot of people throughout Greenville County who already live here, and it's already a pretty busy road.
East Butler Road from Main Street to Woodruff Road needs to be four lanes. It is complete from Bridges Road/Corn Road to Verdin Road/Holland Road.
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:25 PM
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Location: The CLT area
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Well there is that gas tax increase that went through.

And why should the sales tax be on everyone in Greenville county even though they are not using these roads for this project? I think developers should be held liable to put some money towards improvements, since these developments put money in their pockets.
Though I wish they were more proactive, York County's program has been pretty successful:

https://www.penniesforprogress.net/

As to your suggestion that developers should contribute to road improvements, I couldn't agree more. I doubt that a developer would turn down the opportunity to build 1,000 homes, if the County stipulated that they need to participate in the addition of turning lanes, etc.

Once the buildings/housing is built, significant road improvements become a very expensive endeavor. At the very minimum, the builder/developer should donate a tract of land that parallels the existing road, so that future road widening can occur.

The alternative is for the area to grow into a congested mess.

Who wants that?
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