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Old 10-11-2011, 06:04 AM
 
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Stupid Man And a Gun
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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That video was very choppy for me but I saw the part where he was looking down the barrel.

Nothing really surprises me anymore when it comes to guns. I've seen some really stupid things in my time at the range.

Just a couple of weeks ago I stopped a guy from sweeping everyone on the range with pump shotgun. He walked out of the booth and was waving the gun around. Being a pump I had no way to know it it was loaded.

Saturday I watched a woman in the lane next to me shoot her first gun. He BF was telling me how this was her first time etc etc. I asked how many rounds were in the gun and he said it was full six (revolver). I asked him if he thought that was a good idea and he said "sure she'll be fine". After the first shot she turned around, arms extended, finger on the trigger and scared to death shaking. She swept everyone on the right side of the range including me and pointed the gun at her BF. Thankfully he reacted and she didn't shoot anyone.

Rule number one... First time shooters get one round at a time for the first 10 shots. I've seen this same thing happen a dozen times.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Not as surprising as the bikini clad babes below the video. Thanks for the morning pick me up. LOL.

Inches away from being a statistic. Darwin's laws almost caught his ass. Hope he doesn't reproduce.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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Yeah thanks for the porn links.

Oh the gun video? Possibly a fake, it seemed a bit staged.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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Good video, but his little jump at the end looked fake.
What would make that weapon discharge 3 seconds AFTER it hit the ground anyway?
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:05 PM
 
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That video was very choppy for me but I saw the part where he was looking down the barrel.

Nothing really surprises me anymore when it comes to guns. I've seen some really stupid things in my time at the range.

Just a couple of weeks ago I stopped a guy from sweeping everyone on the range with pump shotgun. He walked out of the booth and was waving the gun around. Being a pump I had no way to know it it was loaded.

Saturday I watched a woman in the lane next to me shoot her first gun. He BF was telling me how this was her first time etc etc. I asked how many rounds were in the gun and he said it was full six (revolver). I asked him if he thought that was a good idea and he said "sure she'll be fine". After the first shot she turned around, arms extended, finger on the trigger and scared to death shaking. She swept everyone on the right side of the range including me and pointed the gun at her BF. Thankfully he reacted and she didn't shoot anyone.

Rule number one... First time shooters get one round at a time for the first 10 shots. I've seen this same thing happen a dozen times.
That's surprising to me, the safety rules seem pretty clear, I've always thought. Gun always loaded, barrel always pointed down range and finger off the trigger unless you actually plan to shoot.

First gun both my wife and I handled was loaded up with 100 rounds, and all I heard from her was giggles and the occasional laughter.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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Faked or not, I believe it was a rather apt answer to the question: "Why is it impossible to make anything foolproof?"

The answer: "Because fools are so ingenious."

The moral: Never, never, EVER fall victim to the notion that "No one could be that stupid," because they'll prove you wrong each and every time.

-- Nighteyes

PS: These days, is it possible to have such a delayed firing of any cartridge? Yes. Is it likely? No.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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Good video, but his little jump at the end looked fake.
What would make that weapon discharge 3 seconds AFTER it hit the ground anyway?
Slow primer would cause a delayed fire like that. Never seen one take that long but you never know.

As for the range incidents I posted about. There wasn't a range officer out there (rarely is). As is typically the case both incidents happened with "guests" that someone brought to the range with them. I'm never surprised at how little people know of gun safety and handling.

I've seen several women shocked the first time a gun fires in their hand. Some say it's an emotional overload. Others have said it fired before they thought it would and scared them (short trigger). I've also been told that the feeling of deadly force in their hands is more than they can handle. Had one lady put the gun down, throw down the ears and run out the door. This is why I get paid first

The rule about 1 round for the first 10 shots started more as a rule of thumb for new women shooters but I didn't want to come off as sexist. Either way it's something I picked up from a veteran NRA instructor 15+ yrs ago and it's something he passes along to all his students. Heard this rule countless times from other instructors as well so it's seems like common practice. In my time teaching people I have had at least a dozen incidents where the person fired the gun then froze, panicked, turned around, broke down crying etc. You don't want any of the above to happening with a loaded gun in their hand.... Way to unpredictable.

Also seen incidents where a weaker shooter will fire and get surprised by the recoil and pull the trigger again in an attempt to hold onto the gun. Mostly women but I have seen a couple of smaller guys do it. I had a guy ask me to go shooting with him as he wanted to apply for a Florida CCW. He swore up and down to me that he had been shooting for years but was just out of practice and needed some pointers before taking the class. He was familiar with how the gun ran, knew the various releases etc so being a shooter I assumed he would be ok and let him shoot my P226 9mm with a full mag. First shot broke and the recoil flipped the gun. He squeezed the gun to hold on and fired a second round into the roof of the booth. After that I stuck with the 1 round for the first 10 shots for everyone. Prove to me you can handle it.

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Old 10-12-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I watched a young solider drop a hand grenade at his feet after pulling the pin. Fortunately; it was a practice grenade with the 10 second fuse and the instructor had enough time to jump in the hole and throw the grenade. I was happy that I was in my own culvert at that time!

I killed a rabbit one time with a twelve gauge without a single pellet. I shot at the tip of his nose almost at the same distance as the hat on that man in the video. I missed the rabbit’s nose - but the shock wave or sheer terror and shock killed the rabbit. If that was a true video; I would imagine that the guy might suffer some hearing loss.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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That video reminded me of something my father once told me. He only said it once and I don't remember exactly what the circumstances were, but we laughed and joked about it for years. He said, "Son, if you are bound and determined to open a whole case of stupid, please do it one flap at a time so I can get you stopped if need be."

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