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Originally Posted by spillerNburr
Yeager took down his own post because it was so stupid. His post was a rant about if your not a machinist you could not build an 80% AR. With the 80% *** it was a piece of cake. I only had one issue and that was hammer fall would not catch the trigger. Found out it was a misformed hammer that PSA replaced and took care of the issue. The lower has much less to do with accuracy than the upper assembly does. My first run worked perfectly. I expected to have some issues to run through. It cycled fine with only one FTF and that was a bad primer. This jack wagon had a 15 min rant on youtube that only one in one thousand could do an 80%. I would say it is more reversed. I have ordered several 80% lowers and they are all fine. I recommend the ones that have the lug pocket removed. It makes is just that much faster. It took me about two hours but I can see if you did several that time would be shorter.
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Again... he isn't exactly wrong, there are alot of people who aren't meant to be mechanics, machinists, gun smith's, surgeons, or lawyers.
Accuracy at my standard for any range, comes from a super tight upper to lower fit free floated hand guard and a barrel you'd swear would need to be pressed in with a commercial grade hydraulic press. Not a weeble wobble rock side to side...
With 80% and the average you tuber overnight smith would be able to hog out a blank properly? How many have the gas block twist when driving pins in and wonder why it won't cycle properly? It's happened to me. Good old A2 sight posts.
Hand drilled before I used a drill press. I goofed blanks. Drilled off center and had a thin wall that had I utilised probably would have cracked. Mistakes are made nobody gets it right the first time every time.
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Originally Posted by spillerNburr
Opinions have value if its I like Vanilla and don't like chocolate. But when Yeager makes a stupid statement like his 99% of you out there can not build an 80%ar or his Glocks work out of the box like 1911s fail out of the box. His statements show a lack of thinking. Its beyond opinion.
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I can say there is truth to this statement of his as well.
1911s are jam on matics why? Bad magazines, I don't care if it's a Colt, a Kimber, a Remington, A Ruger, a Springfield, a Rock Island Armory, Les Baer, Wilson Combat, or any other manufacturer who sells a 1911. Unless you're using high quality stainless mags from Chip McCormick or Wilson Combats... you can forget about it feeding reliably.
Have a parkerized frame and slide? You might want to pop the slide off and polish the feed ramp to feed hollow points reliably.
It's when they get into 4 inch and 3 inch barrel lengths when they REALLY goof up and can't feed, can't eject, or cycle properly. Every 1911 I've seen fail at the range I offer the shooter my magazines to try, they don't do squat for the stubby barrels. Kimber especially. I own Glocks. I own a Kimber, I own 3 Colts, I own an R1, I own a Les Baer.
I'll take 5 minutes to strip clean and lube a Glock which has more capacity stock for stock, vs half an hour 45 minutes to strip clean grease, lube, reassemble.
Again, he isn't exactly wrong, he's an instructor for defense...
Would he shill for HK FN Sig? Look at the price gaps between what they all offer in 9 40 45 357 Sig.
P229 not a legion, just a standard P229 in 357 Sig is 1400 out the door. My Glock in 357 Sig, 825 out the door.
Compare FN HK in 9mm and 40 and 45 with Glocks offerings, my 19 was 550 out the door in 9mm. FN and HK were 700-900 depending on what model and whether they had night sights on them....
My 19 is EDC and gets Full of sand and sweat. Runs like a Swiss watch. I am convinced it's indestructible. I know right now if sand stuck to the barrel up by where the barrel bushing rides on the 1911s that pistol won't cycle. I know if I neglect to clean the trigger system and keep putting 250-500 rounds per weekend through any of my 1911s the trigger is going to suck, and have pulled shots.
What does he preach in all of his videos? Situational awareness always be prepared for the worst possible outcome. I'm not suggesting a gun battle will exist where I find myself wounded and dropping my pistol in the sand... but if I do, I know my Glock is going to run.
Same if I drop it in snow. Over the side of a boat. In mud.
One thing a Glocks or any poly pistols demise is... it can become a dog's chew toy
I don't recall ever seeing a chewed up 1911...
Each platform has their Achilles tendon and something they do exceptionally well at.
My 1911s are about as Murica as it gets from standard Mil Spec narrow front sight blades machined out of the reciever and standard Mil Spec frames, flat main spring housing, short GI trigger, Plain Jane, up to the pretty two tone cerakoted frame and slide, skeletonized hammer trigger extended curved beaver tail 30 lines per inch checkering in a diamond pattern topped with custom Novak sights, to the show piece with all the above and coco bolo grips...
They're all accurate (except the Kimber it's a little wonky) tack drivers.
Flaw, they're 7-8 rounds with Chip McCormick magazines. However I can club my enemy to death with the heft they have over the Glock
Dog can't chew it to death.
Good magazines and very intensive cleaning and lubricating to run reliably.
Glock. Bulky. You're perceived as a fan boy if you own one.
Runs lubed. Runs dry. Runs dirty. Fires EVERYTHING you feed it minus cast bullets from uncle bobs basement. Unless you throw a different barrel in.
It takes Seconds to strip and you have the slide out and all critical parts cleaned and lubed in minutes.
Both have massive aftermarket support, modifications, and reputation.
If I was teaching noobs how to be proficient I'd make my class as streamlined as possible. Bring a Glock. Not a Sig, Not a hi-point, not a Kel-tec, not an HK, not a FN, not a Beretta, not a 1911, not a SCCY, not a Bersa, not a Taurus, not a Ruger, not a M&P shield...
We aren't stopping to figure out your weapons issue every 200 rounds....
Again. He isn't exactly wrong. He's not Hickhock45 shooting for fun in his backyard giving as unbiased and as positive a review as possible while smoking pots LOL.
Lets get one thing straight, I'm not a fan boy of Yeagers.
But he has valid points.
As arrogant and elitist as they are at times, they're valid none the less. He gives reviews on hands on life saving equipment and tactics.
He's not going to bore you to death for half an hour like that other blow hard the Yankee Marshall who's not only a know it all, but justifies his reasons on how he's 100% right and so and so is 150% wrong, wheel guns are the best, they'll never jam, and have funny and witty one liners when it comes to liberals and anti shooting sports folks...
And he's not like MattV2099 trying to purposely kill a Glock to prove it's hands down the invincible gift from the pistol gods either.
Arms are no different than engines, the one with less moving parts and superior metallurgy, tightest specs will last the longest until something innovative comes along... So for him to stick to his guns in saying Glock works the first time every time, isn't wrong. Exaggerating the rate of failures of 1911s or those operating the 1911 forgetting to take the safety off... who knows. We aren't there. I don't doubt it though. There's probably equally as many folks who don't leave 1 in the chamber on a Glock either... afraid they'll put one in their leg when unholstering.
Compare the AK platform to AR.
I can leave an AK in a swamp for a year clear the barrel and chamber it'll run everything. But I won't shoot 2 inch groups at 100 yards even with the Stars Saturn and Venus aligned properly.
Take and do the same with any AR mill spec or commercial spec.
You'll shoot 2 inches or less with irons if the stock, and barrel to upper fit is tight and upper to lower is tight, but not after you've stripped it cleaned it lubed it reassembled it. Shoot a case of steel cased crap and cry foul over residue from the cartridge not expanding like brass cake up the gas block the gas tube and BCG key, or welding itself in with the lacquer coating with sub part accuracy.
More springs than moving parts, and springs fail.
Compare the 1911 to a Glock.
Same story.
The Glock sights aren't anything worth writing home about. The triggers aren't the greatest either, but they run and are accurate enough for the average Joe to nail a bullseye at least once per magazine with proper trigger control.
Could be worse, could have those others triggers cough Smith and Wesson cough that feel like they're snapping in half and have 2 miles of take up before the striker hits the primer...
They go bang every time I've pulled the trigger. Dirty, clean, dry, wet, good ammo, bad ammo.
I'm sure others like Vickers and other tactical trainers would share his views just not as bluntly or brash... Just sayin... he trains the average north American couch potato to police officers and everyone inbetween to be proficient with their weapon, and proficient at ending the fight asap or to have the ability to tend to one's wounds sustained in combat. I don't see him endorsing Keltec, HI point, and others because they run and have an advantage over Glock or any other brand. Sure there's controversy over his trainer telling someone to throw their pistol on the ground and had a negligent discharge nailing that dudes vehicle.... but again, a valid point was made. You don't throw loaded chambered handguns on the ground, and you didn't buy these to be safe Queens and show pieces. They're tools to protect life and property.
Show of hands,
Who here is willing to toss their 700-2500 dollar 1911 on the ground, watch it get loaded with sand dirt silt mud and scored up from rocks pebbles or from a metal belt buckle in a waistband appendix carry to get rusty from the elements and salty sweat?
Who here is willing to see a 500 dollar poly pistol get the same treatment? My EDC has gouges in the frame. Has had sand and sweat caked in the magazine well and into the slide etc. I'd never subject any of my 1911s to that, even the cheap R1...
That's where Jeager isn't wrong, you want a tool to defend life and property. Not a show piece to sit in a glass case. Or make an occasional trip to the range... Or one that requires an external safety to be disengaged, for once the adrenaline starts flowing... you going to remember that safety is on? Or are you going to do what you know to do, squeeze that trigger...
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