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Old 07-18-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I knew a lot of this as I've always questioned the "expiration date" issue. On some foods, yes...but on even some foods the expiration date is questionable.

For example I get 200 tabs of my thyroid support and that is about six months worth. And these tabs don't expire and then there are the pharmacies themselves who have large jars of drugs they keep on the shelves for year or more.

I keep amoxicillin that I used for dental appts in the refrig, and my supply has been in there for a couple yrs and I would NOT hesitate to use them if needed.

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...piration-dates

This is just ONE case why drugs are so high and insurance companies/pharma so RICH.

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Old 07-18-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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Anecdote FWIW:

when my 3rd kid who has severe autoimmune disease was about to turn 18, move away and take on her own healthcare management and COSTS as a young adult, her peds GI (well respected HEAD of pedi GI at a teaching hosp) who had managed her (complicated) case for 8yr told her to hold onto all her extra bottles of (many, many) drugs she was not taking/took sometimes/went on and off of i.e. prednisone, put them in a Ziploc in the freezer and they could last "TEN years".

He did say some types of meds would break down sooner than that but the ones she had stockpiles of (immunosuppressants, antiinflammatories, antibiotics, antispasmodics), would last for ages if in freezer.
I'm sure he didn't mean literally TEN years but def meant, a LONG time past expiry.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Very true and very costly...

At one time the Chief of Staff was a former Military Doctor... he would often comment how almost nothing in the Military arbitrarily outdated but the identical drug sold to the public did.

Common Medical Gas like O2 and Nitros are sold through a pharmacy and for a time came with outdates... so perfectly good cylinders had to go back and refilled.

This is one case where the government said the gas industry had to substantiate the out date period and shortly after the outdating stopped.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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Very true and very costly...

At one time the Chief of Staff was a former Military Doctor... he would often comment how almost nothing in the Military arbitrarily outdated but the identical drug sold to the public did.

Common Medical Gas like O2 and Nitros are sold through a pharmacy and for a time came with outdates... so perfectly good cylinders had to go back and refilled.

This is one case where the government said the gas industry had to substantiate the out date period and shortly after the outdating stopped.
Yes, somewhere I read that the military tested stocked pharmaceuticals that were 20 years old, and found that almost every medication had retained 95% potency.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I keep everything. For years past it's expiration date and it still works just fine. I keep mine in a dark cool place in a locked box.
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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Optimal Storage is the key...

We buy a certain pharmaceutical that is shipped all over the world as air freight and no special conditions other than the container is Styrofoam...

Thing is upon receipt it is to be kept refrigerated within certain temps... we had a pharmacy door that did not close 100% and the medication was 2 degrees over the temp for about 8 hours... all of it was destroyed... yet it is not controlled when shipped.

The rep admitted it would have been fine...
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:25 PM
 
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A relative who is a pharmacist told me that outdated medicine was fine....at worst it just might not have the potency it used to have.

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Old 07-19-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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A relative who is a pharmacist told me that outdated medicine was fine....at worst it just might not have the potency it used to have.
Good to know. They make such a big deal of insisting you throw it out, I was beginning to wonder if it would kill you or something.

I have a bunch of oxy left from a surgery that I've been saving in case something comes up. Expired in 2014.
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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Yes, even my own doctor told me that stuff lasts for years and years. Keep it all, folks.
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Anecdote FWIW:

when my 3rd kid who has severe autoimmune disease was about to turn 18, move away and take on her own healthcare management and COSTS as a young adult, her peds GI (well respected HEAD of pedi GI at a teaching hosp) who had managed her (complicated) case for 8yr told her to hold onto all her extra bottles of (many, many) drugs she was not taking/took sometimes/went on and off of i.e. prednisone, put them in a Ziploc in the freezer and they could last "TEN years".

He did say some types of meds would break down sooner than that but the ones she had stockpiles of (immunosuppressants, antiinflammatories, antibiotics, antispasmodics), would last for ages if in freezer.
I'm sure he didn't mean literally TEN years but def meant, a LONG time past expiry.
I would be hesitant to freeze medications.

Storage Temperature May Affect Medication - The New York Times
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