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Old 08-18-2018, 09:49 AM
 
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Only 1000 cases of tetanus each year

0.....zero.......ZERO cases of diphtheria, in 2015

Whopping cough can be treated with meds


But still, why is aluminum and formaldehyde in the TDAP vaccine?

 
Old 08-18-2018, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Only 1000 cases of tetanus each year

0.....zero.......ZERO cases of diphtheria, in 2015

Whopping cough can be treated with meds


But still, why is aluminum and formaldehyde in the TDAP vaccine?
I hope the pharma experts here can give you a satisfactory answer. I've wondered why all the toxins are in vaccines for years, oh and don't forget the mercury.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 10:17 AM
 
Location: OH>IL>CO>CT
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Your answer can be found here: https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/vacc...nts/index.html

Briefly, aluminum, as an adjuvant, is there to "help your immune system respond more strongly to a vaccine."

Re formaldehyde:
"Some ingredients that are needed to produce the vaccine are no longer needed for the vaccine to work in a person.
These ingredients are taken out after production so only tiny amounts are left in the final product. The very small amounts of these ingredients that remain in the final product aren’t harmful."
 
Old 08-18-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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Only 1000 cases of tetanus each year

0.....zero.......ZERO cases of diphtheria, in 2015

Whopping cough can be treated with meds


But still, why is aluminum and formaldehyde in the TDAP vaccine?
This thread won't last long...

Made up vaccine controversies aren't allowed

But for the tin foil hat crowd that still believes vaccines are harmful and that space aliens live among us...

The amount of formaldehyde used as a preservative is negligible and harmless...

https://www.chop.edu/centers-program...s/formaldehyde

Your body needs formaldehyde for cellular functions and the amount in vaccines as a residual of inactivating viruses is less than what is normally present in the body..

Aluminum is added as an adjuvant to enhance immune response...again amounts present in vaccines are negligible

You take in more aluminum in your diet, it is ubiquitous in nature, than what is found in vaccines.
https://www.chop.edu/centers-program...ients/aluminum

As for your other nonsense..

1. Tetanus

Don't know where you got your numbers. Picked out of thin air no doubt...

In the US, Tetanus cases are a couple hundred at most per year....wonder why Oh yeah....vaccines...

Worldwide however, where VACCINE coverage isn't (or wasn't) so prevalent

"WHO estimated that neonatal tetanus killed about 49,000 newborn children in 2013, a 94% reduction from the situation in 1988 when an estimated 787,000 newborn babies died of tetanus within their first month of life."http://www.who.int/immunization/diseases/tetanus/en/

You do know there is no cure for tetanus right? You better hope you never catch it....mortality is quite high

2. Diptheria

Gee wonder why no cases of Diptheria in 2015? Oh yeah....vaccine Noticing a trend yet???

"Diphtheria once was a major cause of illness and death among children. The United States recorded 206,000 cases of diphtheria in 1921, resulting in 15,520 deaths. Starting in the 1920s, diphtheria rates dropped quickly due to the widespread use of vaccines. Between 2004 and 2015, 2 cases of diphtheria were recorded in the United States. However, the disease continues to cause illness globally. In 2014, 7,321 cases of diphtheria were reported worldwide to the World Health Organization, but many more cases likely go unreported."
https://www.cdc.gov/diphtheria/clinicians.html

5-20% mortality rate for Diptheria even with treatment, was around 40% before treatment....but yeah....let's stop vaccinating for it....makes perfect sense to me

3. Whooping cough

Before pertussis vaccines became widely available in the 1940s, about 200,000 children got sick with it each year in the United States and about 9,000 died as a result of the infection. Now we see about 10,000 to 40,000 cases reported each year and unfortunately up to 20 deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/about/...treatment.html

Yeah, pertussis can be treated with meds....and even with treatment 1 out of 100 babies will die...no problem right?

Pertussis can lead to rib fractures and permanent lung damage/scarring leading to bronchiectasis ...

But yeah, just because we can effectively prevent this disease with a SAFE vaccine, why would we want to avoid the death and disability risks????

Amazing.......
 
Old 08-18-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Let's just take care of all the vaccine myths at one time, shall we?

https://www.verywellfamily.com/anti-...mation-2633730
 
Old 08-18-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I hope the pharma experts here can give you a satisfactory answer. I've wondered why all the toxins are in vaccines for years, oh and don't forget the mercury.
Yes, do forget the mercury. It is not in children's vaccines any more. It was removed because the anti-vaxxers were hysterical about it. It never did harm and removing it did not prevent a single case of autism

The mercury containing preservative is still in multidose vials of flu vaccine, but the single dose form without it can be requested by anyone who does not want thimerosal.

See myth #8 in the link above.

You can stop wondering about "why all the toxins are in vaccines". There are no "toxins" in vaccines.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Yes, do forget the mercury. It is not in children's vaccines any more. It was removed because the anti-vaxxers were hysterical about it. It never did harm and removing it did not prevent a single case of autism

The mercury containing preservative is still in multidose vials of flu vaccine, but the single dose form without it can be requested by anyone who does not want thimerosal.

See myth #8 in the link above.

You can stop wondering about "why all the toxins are in vaccines". There are no "toxins" in vaccines.
Toxins are in all lab drugs.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Toxins are in all lab drugs.
Nope. The tiny doses of the things that the antivaxxers call "toxins" are not toxic.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Let's just take care of all the vaccine myths at one time, shall we?

https://www.verywellfamily.com/anti-...mation-2633730

Great link Suzy!

The OP starts off complaining because we still immunize for tetanus when there are only a 1000 cases each year. I have to wonder if they aver thought about why there are only a 1000 cases each year? This is what vaccines are supposed to do; keep down the dying, pain and suffering. Perhaps they should Google: "Images of tetanus" and see why none of us should want to die that way? 1,000 cases is 1,000 far too many; even if they are treated and survive.

I have worked for three different pharmaceutical companies that have made or make these vaccines. I started off in the 1960's and left and went back in the 1990's and again after the turn of the century. I am currently 'retired' because of my wife's health. What I can tell people about our vaccines is that we constantly strive to improve them. If we find a better way; then we will do so. It is in our best interest to produce quality products. Anybody can report adverse effects of any of these vaccines.

The process to make these vaccines changes almost every day. The pharmaceutical companies live under the close scrutiny of the FDA and must use cGMP (current Good Manufacturing Practices): https://www.fda.gov/drugs/developmen.../ucm169105.htm. Failure to protect the public is not an option.
 
Old 08-18-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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Toxins are in all lab drugs.
Fortunately all those "supps" you take are perfectly safe

Consumers are continually being put at risk of consuming supplements tainted with harmful substances, Pieter Cohen, a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School, writes in the April 3 New England Journal of Medicine. About half of all U.S. adults take dietary supplements, meaning that literally millions of people could be at risk.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...fda-oversight/

A recent study has identified supplements as an emerging cause of drug-induced liver damage in the United States, rising from 7 percent of cases in 2004 to 20 percent today.
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a1...plement-toxic/

With the help of an expert panel of independent doctors and dietary-supplement researchers, Consumer Reports identified 15 supplement ingredients that are potentially harmful. The risks include organ damage, cancer, and cardiac arrest.
https://www.consumerreports.org/vita...-always-avoid/
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