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Something tells me the Fatherland is going to thin out in a few more generations, unfortunately.
But I'd take issue with the US depiction. Last I read, about 40% of the US population is of German ethnic origin, which would be around 120,000,000 people. Should be a lot more dots over here.
My direct ancestor fled Heidelberg in 1753, traveled to Rotterdam and took an English ship to Philadelphia.
It is interesting that we can see not very big German ethnic groups to the East of Germany (up to Ural) and none to the West of the native country: in France, Spain and Portugal. Is it a mistake of the painter or political correctness or truth?
Notice the dots over in Central Asia, in the area of Kazakhstan. Those are there because Stalin deported Germans there after WWII. There were Germans in the Baltic States, and he sent hundreds of thousands of Balts there as well as Germans, and there were Germans in Russia proper, as well. That's a little piece of history that gets overlooked. But there it is, on the map.
But I'd take issue with the US depiction. Last I read, about 40% of the US population is of German ethnic origin, which would be around 120,000,000 people. Should be a lot more dots over here.
There are roughly 50 million Americans of German descent. Now. The map is from 1930 - it was lower then in sheer numbers, though the percentages might've been somewhat higher.
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It is interesting that we can see not very big German ethnic groups to the East of Germany (up to Ural) and none to the West of the native country: in France, Spain and Portugal. Is it a mistake of the painter or political correctness or truth?
It's a German-made map (notice that the area descriptions are all in German?) from 1930. Who do you think in Wiemar Germany was declining to list Germans in Spain for fear of offending someone? Do you even know what 'political correctness' even means? And do you see it everywhere?
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Notice the dots over in Central Asia, in the area of Kazakhstan. Those are there because Stalin deported Germans there after WWII.
Notice the dots over in Central Asia, in the area of Kazakhstan. Those are there because Stalin deported Germans there after WWII. There were Germans in the Baltic States, and he sent hundreds of thousands of Balts there as well as Germans, and there were Germans in Russia proper, as well. That's a little piece of history that gets overlooked. But there it is, on the map.
My great Grand Parents came to the US in 1914 fro the Saratov region on the Volga Ethnic Germans. In '41 their Families were all deported to Siberia. Their descendants live in a Village called Osokins in Omsk Oblast.
There is a large segment on germans from Russia here in the US
My great Grand Parents came to the US in 1914 fro the Saratov region on the Volga Ethnic Germans. In '41 their Families were all deported to Siberia. Their descendants live in a Village called Osokins in Omsk Oblast.
There is a large segment on germans from Russia here in the US
Thank you. The Volga Germans had their own autonomous republic, which was liquidated at the beginning of WWII.
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The map is from 1930.
Even after WWI, the Tsar deported Germans to Siberia, the Volga and Central Asia. Stalin continued that process after coming to power in the mid-1920's. It should be fairly obvious that Germans wouldn't volunteer to live in Central Asia, whether before 1930 or after. If there's a significant presence there, there's got to be a grim background story to it.
My great Grand Parents came to the US in 1914 fro the Saratov region on the Volga Ethnic Germans. In '41 their Families were all deported to Siberia. Their descendants live in a Village called Osokins in Omsk Oblast.
There is a large segment on germans from Russia here in the US
I can verify that. My family, too, came to Chicago in 1914 (?15) from Enders, Ukraine, just north of the Black Sea. The whole town packed up and moved to Jefferson Park, Chicago. Family left behind wound up in Siberia.
When I took German in high school in the 60s, my teacher kept criticizing me for having a Russian accent. I guess I was unconsciously imitating my grandparents' speech.
I've read that English became the "official" language of the Continental Congress, winning by a single vote over German, when two Pennsylvania Dutch reps were delayed by weather en route to the convention and didn't vote.
Thank you. The Volga Germans had their own autonomous republic, which was liquidated at the beginning of WWII.
Even after WWI, the Tsar deported Germans to Siberia, the Volga and Central Asia. Stalin continued that process after coming to power in the mid-1920's. It should be fairly obvious that Germans wouldn't volunteer to live in Central Asia, whether before 1930 or after. If there's a significant presence there, there's got to be a grim background story to it.
It is interesting that we can see not very big German ethnic groups to the East of Germany (up to Ural) and none to the West of the native country: in France, Spain and Portugal. Is it a mistake of the painter or political correctness or truth?
It's the truth. After all, unlike in Eastern Europe, there doesn't appear to have been much available living space (Lebensraum) for ethnic Germans in Western Europe.
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