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Old 01-24-2009, 11:32 AM
 
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Just got done watching a good show on the National Geographic channel about the Romanov's and what really happened to them. In 1918 the bolsheviks supposedly executed all 11 of them (7 family, 3 servants and 1 family doctor) and yet they found only 9 in a mass grave that they were sure was them buried in it. So they did bone analyses with computers and used mtDNA and matched it with Prince Phillip of the U.K.(Great nephew of the empress Alexandra) it matched up perfect that they were the Romanav's and also who were the nine buried and which two were missing.

The two missing were the 13 y/o heir alexei and 17 y/o anastasia who to this day they have never found their remains. They also proved that the fake anastasia ''anna anderson'' who first surfaced in Germany in 1920 claiming to be anastasia was an imposter by using mtDNA from her tissue saved from a surgical procedure in virginia during her last years alive in the USA..

Anyway it was an interesting show about their executions and the mystery of alexei and anastasia.
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:08 PM
 
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Alexei had hemophilia and needed constant medical care. Even if the Bolsheviks didn't execute him right away, it's hard to imagine that he lived very long. As to Anastasia, the likelihood is that she also died not long after her parents. That her remains were never found was never really surprising, since nobody made a point of talking about it!
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:59 PM
 
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Alexei had hemophilia and needed constant medical care. Even if the Bolsheviks didn't execute him right away, it's hard to imagine that he lived very long. As to Anastasia, the likelihood is that she also died not long after her parents. That her remains were never found was never really surprising, since nobody made a point of talking about it!
Agreed, I don't think they would have left them alive ... the Bolsheviks were not stupid ... they were paranoid about threats to their rule and the last thing they wanted was a living pretender to the throne to be around to drum up opposition.

They killed them and made sure of it.
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:59 PM
 
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Alexei's remains were discovered in 2007, along with those of a young woman. Even a DNA test was claimed to have been positive somewhere in 2008. The case is somewhat closed
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:49 AM
 
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Alexei's remains were discovered in 2007, along with those of a young woman. Even a DNA test was claimed to have been positive somewhere in 2008. The case is somewhat closed
Did they say how far away from the other burial site?? Same vicinity or miles away?
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:27 AM
 
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Did they say how far away from the other burial site?? Same vicinity or miles away?
I guess it was a different location.

The Bolsheviks were EVIL.

One theory is that the rest of the family pleaded with them to save the young lad because of his ailment. So they gave them the illusion they spared him and one of the girls to take care of him. And they moved them to another safe house nearby to execute.

But the most popular theories are that he escaped or was rescued by an angel or survived several stabbing and shooting attemps because he was a holy one, which are just legend

Whatever the theory, the remains were discovered or at least the Russians claim so.
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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I recently read "Nicholas and Alexandra"...Quite interesting and tragic. Alexandra was German and the Rusian people hated her.. called her "..the German woman"..not a compliment...They considered her cold and distant, although she regarded herself as a Russian after she married Nicki.. and it was quite a romance they had... The reason she seemed so reclusive was because her son was sick all the time..and she relied so much on Rasputin,as she believed he could keep him alive. While Nicholas was away during the War, she was pretty much in control of Rusia and Rasputin started appointing government officials...and not very good ones at that !!
Alexandra was the grandaughter of Queen Victoria and the hemophiliac(sp) gene was passed through her...a number of her male heirs had the disease.
Also.. King George of England, Kaiser Wilhem, and Nicholas were all cousins..also related to Queen Victoria..In some photos, it is hard to tell nicholas and George apart they looked so alike.

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Old 01-25-2009, 06:12 PM
 
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The Romanov's main problem was that at a crucial time (World War I and the emergence of Bolshevism), the 300-year-old dynasty fell to Nicholas, one of the more incompetent rulers ever to take the throne. As far as he was concerned, he was meant to be an autocrat and ruled accordingly. History, and in particular Russian history, might have turned out very, very differently with another Czar in power at the time.
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Old 01-25-2009, 07:39 PM
 
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From what I've read, Nicholas did not even want to be Czar...he knew he was not 'cut out' for it...
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:11 AM
 
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I wonder theoretically if Russia hadn't entered WWI that Nicholas and the monarchy could have survived longer?
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