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Old 03-20-2010, 12:02 PM
 
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the u.s entrance into wwii had nothing to do with the holocaust or liberation of the jews from the camps.
bingo !
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:15 PM
 
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The U.S entrance into WWII had nothing to do with the Holocaust or liberation of the Jews from the camps.
In point of fact, the U.S. steadfastly refused to increase immigration quotes, like most western nations, that would have allowed Jewish refugees to freely enter the country, much to Hilter and Goebel's delight. Additionally, recent evidence reports that the State Department (the center of American governmental) anti-semitism was fully aware of the Nazi's genocidal plans as early as 1942.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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You ended your #1 with "So many lives could have been saved."

That's a statement, not a question. So yeah, go look up "question" as it would save us a lot of time. Look up Mustela Nivalis while you are there too.


You just don't get it, but please go trolling in another thread. Thanks.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I also think it coulda been the anti-semitism in the U.S. government... But I don't know for sure. But seems like it, since they did send some of them back.

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The U.S entrance into WWII had nothing to do with the Holocaust or liberation of the Jews from the camps.
eh? It's pretty obvious that the U.S. had nothing to do with the Holocaust... However, American troops did liberate some camps at the end of the war.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:22 PM
 
Location: woodstock
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Where were you in the late 1970's when Pol Pot was killing 2 million people in Cambodia.

Where were you when Stalin was killing millions of Ukrainian citizens.

Where was you voice when Saddam Hussein was using poison gas on the Kurds.

What was your reaction when 1/2 a million Hutu (sp) were killed in Rwanda by the Tutsi.
Don't forget the millions of Chinese killed by Mao Tse Tung. China is still imprisoning dissidents, that is what made the Tienamen Square uprising so poignant. Also, one could argue that massive aerial bombing missions like the UN mission under Clinton in the Balkans killed a lot of innocents. Same with Bush and Iraq. So what are you gonna do?
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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The extermination of the Jews largely occured in the camps in eastern Europe (Auschwitz, etc) and were hundreds of miles from any active front for a long time. On top of that, people in the West found it hard to believe that such things were happening. If we had bombed the camps, all that would have done would have been to put the inmates out of their misery. In addition, the USSR would not allow American bombers to land on their territory to refule.
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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The U.S entrance into WWII had nothing to do with the Holocaust or liberation of the Jews from the camps.
At the time the US entered World War II, it wasn't even widely known or accepted that such a systematic genocide was going on. In retrospect it's all clear, but the anti-semitism of the nazis was hardly anything new, and nothing like that scale of slaughter had ever taken place.

The Roosevelt administration considered Germany a grave threat to US security and wished to enter the war against Germany as soon our military strength could be built up sufficiently and as soon as the American people could be convinced to support the war.

Roosevelt didn't really want war with Japan. He hoped to hold off Japan without war until Germany could be defeated. But ironically, it was Japan who provided him with the opening he wanted to enter the war against Germany. After Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Germany foolishly declared war on the US, without securing Japanese help against the Russians. It was an idiotic move, since the fury of the American people was focused on Japan after Pearl Harbor, and it would have been difficult for Roosevelt to convince people that fighting Germany was a priority without Hitler's declaration of war on the US.
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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US bombers flew on to Russia so the answer is obviously yes.

But were thay capable of flying back to England from Poland; that's the point. London to Warsaw is about 900 miles, according to Wiki the range of a B-17 with 3 tons of bombs was 2000 miles; it seems raids from England to eastern Europe would be cutting things pretty close.

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Old 03-20-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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But were thay capable of flying back to England from Poland; that's the point.

I don't think the bombers at that time had the capability to fly from England to Poland and back. They would have had to refuel somewhere, and there was no place to do it.
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:30 PM
 
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They were able to fly back. The distance from England to Russia was obviously no different than from Russia to England. They just flew in the opposite direction after refueling.
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