Do you think that the Hyperloop will kill HSR plans in Texas ? (West: construction, beach)

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by shortel

yea I want to know how much a ticket will cost. If its not significantly cheaper then flying or driving then it will never take off. Specially if you cant get anywhere once you get to either place. they will need to atleast extend metro rail in Houston no matter what.ohh I want to take a bus once I get to Houston so I can spend 4 hours going 5 miles. not.

Really , drop me off at Northwest Mall and I'll walk the rest of the way.

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

Not to mention, it would be dangerous. Some may say that air flights are dangerous; yes, they are too. Afterall, a airplane landing is just a controlled crash landing.

But at least in an airplane, you don't have all the crazy people to get in the path of a flight. It would be too easy to sabotage such a system on the ground because it would not be too difficult to gain access to the path giving that it is on the earth. At least in the air the chances are less.

400 MPH, and hitting an object will be severely damaging, or gruesome as the Chron would say. The impact alone, a sudden stop, even if you were in your seatbelt, would turn your brain to mush, and rip your organs internally. It would not be pretty! That would be one train I could miss.

Don't you think they would run these tubes underground to avoid damage and potential sabotage. Also remember the tubes will be a vacuum devoid of air, if there is any breach of the tube they will know because air will fill the tubes immediately..

[Dopo]

When news media doesn't want something to happen
(1) they will talk over and over about the negatives
(2) when that doesn't work, they will keep on bringing "better ideas"

[predatorprey]

So it crashed after 5 seconds. If HSR is ever build it will be completed way before this new rail concept.

I'd say let Another state bankrupt itself building the first one.

We all know it's going to be multiples times more expensive than original estimates.

[gwarnecke]

The challenges with HSR in Texas aren't technological in nature - high-speed rail is a proven and reliable technology. They come down to getting access to R.O.W. and building an economic business model. The second part will be difficult due to extremely high fixed cost of HSR construction, numerous economical alternatives to HSR travel (flying, buses, driving yourself), and the car-centric nature of both destinations.

I don't see how getting R.O.W. would be any easier for a Hyperloop than for a train. Putting it underground would cost a fortune, even if this was only done in/near populated areas. And I have trouble believing that a brand-new technology that is only in the earliest stages of testing would ultimately be cheaper to deploy than a technology that has basically been around for over half a century.

[dkag]

How is this better than Japanese Shinkansen?

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by gwarnecke

The challenges with HSR in Texas aren't technological in nature - high-speed rail is a proven and reliable technology. They come down to getting access to R.O.W. and building an economic business model. The second part will be difficult due to extremely high fixed cost of HSR construction, numerous economical alternatives to HSR travel (flying, buses, driving yourself), and the car-centric nature of both destinations.

I don't see how getting R.O.W. would be any easier for a Hyperloop than for a train. Putting it underground would cost a fortune, even if this was only done in/near populated areas. And I have trouble believing that a brand-new technology that is only in the earliest stages of testing would ultimately be cheaper to deploy than a technology that has basically been around for over half a century.

Cnbc is reporting that the first freight Hyperloop is expected to be ready as soon as late next year. This technology may be a bigger concern for freight carriers than passenger competitors. But they say passengers will be using Hyperloop technology somewhere in this world by 2021, which I think is about the same timeline HSR in Texas is using..Stay tuned !

[Houston parent]

I'm not sure we really need either here.

[predatorprey]

Originally Posted by Houston parent

I'm not sure we really need either here.

I'm in total agreement there

For passenger. Flying will almost always be far faster and cheaper.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by Dopo

When news media doesn't want something to happen
(1) they will talk over and over about the negatives
(2) when that doesn't work, they will keep on bringing "better ideas"

Because the system is designed with Dallas being the hub. HSR would not be needed if economic activity was centered in mostly one area, like Chicago in Illinois or NYC in NYS. I argue that the California model might work for Texas, with half living in L.A./O.C./I.E., a quarter in S.F./Bay Area, and the rest sprinkled throughout the state. Houston would be L.A. and San Antonio would be S.F. in this scenario.

Houston should continue poaching from DFW and Austin, alongside attracting companies to pick Houston when they relocate to Texas.

[hendersj31]

The hyperloop does not need to ascend and descend nor will it require waiting\taxi on runways. If it were designed as reported I do not see how flying would be faster for trips between these relatively close cities. It is not designed for cross country trips, which Musk admits.
But if the hyperloop were to reach 700 mph as claimed then flying would only be faster if you need to cross seas.

Originally Posted by predatorprey

I'm in total agreement there

For passenger. Flying will almost always be far faster and cheaper.