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Old 04-14-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I live on the border and the last thing I want is Russ Pearce and JT Ready's National Socialist Patriot Militia running around my back yard with automatic weapons. Armed thugs, I was glad like the ones who murdered that family near Douglas aren't needed
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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I live on the border and the last thing I want is Russ Pearce and JT Ready's National Socialist Patriot Militia running around my back yard with automatic weapons. Armed thugs, I was glad like the ones who murdered that family near Douglas aren't needed
I am not familiar with that particular group but you are exaggerating that any group like that would be running around anyone's backyard with authomatic weapons. The Minutemen operated within the law. They had permits for any weapons they carried (in self-defense).

Are you refering to the Hispanic man and his daughter that were killed by an ex-Minuteman woman (who was kicked out of the original MM organization because of her radical tendencies) and a couple of others (one who was a Mexican himself)? That was about drug money not illegal immigration.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:12 AM
 
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Sorry. This has been tested in a few foreign countries and has failed. They just build fortified tunnels and bypass it all (depth doesn't make a difference either as they dig deeper or just blast a hole through under ground).
Really? So the Great Wall of China is a failure? How about the Berlin Wall? Even though the Berlin Wall was finally torn down it did its intended job while still intact. I understand Mexico is building a wall on its southern border to keep the Guatamalans out. Better tell them not to waste the money then.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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I cant speak to that. You would have to address that question to those making that claim.

I commented that the minutemen were unproffesional, ineffectual, and unnecessary...as has proven out. I admit I did it in a "back of my hand" mannor, but racism never entered my conversation,
Not sure what you mean. The MM merely spotted illegals crossing the border and reported them to the BP. Many illegals were caught that way that would probably not have been caught otherwise. Every little bit helps. I wouldn't call that unprofessional, ineffectual and unnecessary.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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One more time, enforcement on the Border has doubled BUT, due to a decade of neglect, there are already 12 million illegals here. Unless we go after the Meat Packing Plants, Poultry plants and others who employ illegals by the thousand we are spinning our wheels. Wherever in America you live, go to your local Meat Packing Plant or Poultry Plant and stand outside at change of shift, you will see more illegals in an hour than I see on the border in a week
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I live on the border and the last thing I want is Russ Pearce and JT Ready's National Socialist Patriot Militia running around my back yard with automatic weapons. Armed thugs, I was glad like the ones who murdered that family near Douglas aren't needed
The Minutemen are NOT the group you are referring to as "Armed Thugs", are you? Because the MM operate well within the law.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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The Minutemen are NOT the group you are referring to as "Armed Thugs", are you? Because the MM operate well within the law.
they used to...They litigated [against] theselves out of border watch. They maintain a website, but no longer patrol.
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Old 04-14-2011, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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The Minutemen are NOT the group you are referring to as "Armed Thugs", are you? Because the MM operate well within the law.
there are about 10 different brands of Minute Man, roaming around, mostly watching each other. I believe it was one of their splinter groups that murdered the woman and child for the drug stash.
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Old 04-14-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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there are about 10 different brands of Minute Man, roaming around, mostly watching each other. I believe it was one of their splinter groups that murdered the woman and child for the drug stash.
Roaming around mostly watching each other? You obviously don't know much about the Minuteman Organization then.

As I already pointed out in here, the woman and her ilk that were involved in those murders were radicals who formed their own group. A Latino man and his daughter were killed over drug money but the pro-illegals tried to make it into a racist issue when it wasn't. The Latino man and his family were not illegal aliens either.
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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there are about 10 different brands of Minute Man, roaming around, mostly watching each other. I believe it was one of their splinter groups that murdered the woman and child for the drug stash.

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A group of Minutemen took some time off from patriotically patrolling the border to conduct their own drug raid in Arivaca, Arizona. During the unofficial raid (where they apparently planned on stealing the victims money and drugs,) they decided the best option was to kill all suspects, including an 8 year-old girl. The mother survived her planned execution and was able to call the police
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