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I've made that point to aliases of you and your husband before, but here it is again: "Immediate Relatives" have no immigration quotas if it is a U.S. citizen able to sponsor them. That is the qualifying standard of family-based immigration, not whether they have a particular skill-set.
There needs to be reform of the family sponsorship obviously. Some kind of limitations and also some expectation of responsibility for their immigrants.
You are right - if there is an immigrant living here legally, they are allowed to bring in all kinds of unskilled, illiterate, eldery, disabled, unemployable family members and without any limits on the number they bring in. The sponsor doesn't have to provide his immigrants with any kind of health insurance plan, doesn't have to live up to any promise to pay for them. A very large number of family sponsored immigrants live off welfare programs of one kind or another for that reason.
Family sponsorship needs to be tighted up, limited to spouse and minor children that the sponsor actually provides for.
There needs to be reform of the family sponsorship obviously. Some kind of limitations and also some expectation of responsibility for their immigrants.
You are right - if there is an immigrant living here legally, they are allowed to bring in all kinds of unskilled, illiterate, eldery, disabled, unemployable family members and without any limits on the number they bring in. The sponsor doesn't have to provide his immigrants with any kind of health insurance plan, doesn't have to live up to any promise to pay for them. A very large number of family sponsored immigrants live off welfare programs of one kind or another for that reason.
Family sponsorship needs to be tighted up, limited to spouse and minor children that the sponsor actually provides for.
At the last sentence you finally got it right. Not that family-based immigration needs to be "tightened up", but that it is limited to only the spouse and their minor children that are sponsored. That is "immediate relatives" of the U.S. citizen, and what is currently allowed.
All the other information is wrong - I am a U.S. citizen. I can only bring in "immediate relatives" that I sponsor - Showing that even if they don't work, my household will not go below 125% of the poverty level. They can't get most government benefits for five years.
I signed a binding legal contract to sponsor my wife and stepchildren. The sponsor provides whatever health insurance they can - My family has been on my plan from Day 1, before they were even in the United States. We aren't on welfare or food assistance (not even reduced-cost school lunches), and all I immigrated will be contributing members to our society.
This isn't cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. like you are assuming...
You probably need to review your post for corrections...
I'm just wondering why you say such things without understanding family-based immigration...
I've asked you to knock off the personal remarks and insinuations before, apparently you haven't learned.
...Is it that brain transplant thing that we have spoken about before or that white guilt thing or both?
You can insult me, but I can't say that you and your husband use multiple aliases on different forums, use accounts that aren't yours, and have the different personalities give slightly different information to who they are so people don't realize that behavior?
What is this "brain transplant" you are referring to?...
You can insult me, but I can't say that you and your husband use multiple aliases on different forums, use accounts that aren't yours, and have the different personalities give slightly different information to who they are so people don't realize that behavior?
What is this "brain transplant" you are referring to?...
Where did I insult you? Talking about me and my husband or whatever names we may post under is not staying on topic. It isn't relevant to any topics in here nor is it relevant to this forum. I only post under the handle I have in here and whom my husband chooses to post under in other forums is none of your business either.
Brain transplant or brainwashed is marrying a Hispanic (even one who is here legally) and becoming an advocate for illegal aliens all of a sudden. I don't want to get off topic here myself but I have seen it happen time and time again. Some whites who marry Hispanics all of a sudden suffer from white guilt also.
I have asked you before, if you want to get personal in here then PM me. It shouldn't be done under any of the topics of this forum.
At the last sentence you finally got it right. Not that family-based immigration needs to be "tightened up", but that it is limited to only the spouse and their minor children that are sponsored. That is "immediate relatives" of the U.S. citizen, and what is currently allowed.
All the other information is wrong - I am a U.S. citizen. I can only bring in "immediate relatives" that I sponsor - Showing that even if they don't work, my household will not go below 125% of the poverty level. They can't get most government benefits for five years.
I signed a binding legal contract to sponsor my wife and stepchildren. The sponsor provides whatever health insurance they can - My family has been on my plan from Day 1, before they were even in the United States. We aren't on welfare or food assistance (not even reduced-cost school lunches), and all I immigrated will be contributing members to our society.
This isn't cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. like you are assuming...
You probably need to review your post for corrections...
I'm just wondering why you say such things without understanding family-based immigration...
Yes, currently. However, if so-called Comprehensive Immigration Reform passes, parents will also be included. Then, when eligible, those parents may sponsor their “other” children. So yes, aunts, uncles, and cousins could eventually come.
Quote:
H.R.4321
Comprehensive Immigration Reform ASAP Act of 2009 (Introduced in House - IH)
SEC. 302. RECLASSIFICATION OF SPOUSES AND MINOR CHILDREN OF LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENTS AS IMMEDIATE RELATIVES.
a) In General- Section 201(b)(2) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(b)(2)) is amended to read as follows:
`(2) IMMEDIATE RELATIVE-`
(A) IN GENERAL-
`(i) IMMEDIATE RELATIVE DEFINED- In this subparagraph, the term `immediate relative' means a child, spouse, or parent of a citizen of the United States or a child or spouse of a lawful permanent resident (and for each family member of a citizen or lawful permanent resident under this subparagraph, such individual's spouse or child who is accompanying or following to join the individual), except that, in the case of parents, such citizens shall be at least 21 years of age.
SEC. 304. PROMOTING FAMILY UNITY.
(B) in clause (v)--
(i) by striking `spouse or son or daughter' and inserting `spouse, son, daughter, or parent';
Yes, currently. However, if so-called Comprehensive Immigration Reform passes, parents will also be included. Then, when eligible, those parents may sponsor their “other” children. So yes, aunts, uncles, and cousins could eventually come...
How are you making the leap from an "immediate relative" to cousins, aunts, and uncles? In the (unpassed) legislation you quote, the U.S. citizen has to be age 21 before sponsoring their parents to become Legal Permanent Residents (same as it is now). It's another five years minimum before they have citizenship themselves.
I'm quoting current law, and you are giving a what-if on a 20 year plan for legislation that isn't even passed...
How are you making the leap from an "immediate relative" to cousins, aunts, and uncles? In the (unpassed) legislation you quote, the U.S. citizen has to be age 21 before sponsoring their parents to become Legal Permanent Residents (same as it is now). It's another five years minimum before they have citizenship themselves.
I'm quoting current law, and you are giving a what-if on a 20 year plan for legislation that isn't even passed...
If a citizen can sponsor parents, parents can later sponsor their sons and daughters who remain in their homeland, and they can bring their spouses, and children, and so on and so on. . . .
In any case, if the current illegals are amnestied, they will bring their “immediate” family and the entire clan will be reunited; which, by the way, will include someone’s aunt, uncle, cousins, and grandparents.
I am quoting the proposed law which includes parents. What’s your issue?
If a citizen can sponsor parents, parents can later sponsor their sons and daughters who remain in their homeland, and they can bring their spouses, and children, and so on and so on. . . .
In any case, if the current illegals are amnestied, they will bring their “immediate” family and the entire clan will be reunited; which, by the way, will include someone’s aunt, uncle, cousins, and grandparents.
I am quoting the proposed law which includes parents. What’s your issue?
I'm looking back through the thread, where I get a response that "illegals" had the ability to immigrate the legal way, but the poster equates there to be no immigration law in place in the United States. Currently there are quotas and backlogs on what you propose. Can you give me a timeline in years, and the process (after this CIR you refer to is passed) it will take, step by step?
Spoken like a true socialist, Communist......Chairman Maobama. His vision, isn't our vision. Can't wait until he's booted out of the White House in 2012. He has not helped this country one bit, only harmed it more.
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