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Old 12-01-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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People who commit suicide are selfish people and don't want to face reality....he thought he was entitled to a green card or becoming a citizen.

I agree his parents might have been the one coming here and putting him in this position but he had a choice of going back to his Country or try to stay here in a legal way...I don't feel sorry for him, I'm glad nobody else got hurt.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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High school senior Joaquin Luna, 18, dressed in a suit, kissed family members, went into the bathroom and shot himself, according to his brother, Diyer Mendoza. In the letters he said he had lost hope in the chances for the Dream Act, which is legislation that would have legalized illegal-immigrant students and young adults but which was blocked in Congress last year.

“He was actually doing this for the cause, mainly the Dream Act,” Mr. Mendoza said. “He was doing this to show politicians, to show that something had to be done because there are a lot of kids out there in the same situation.”

The case highlights the hundreds of thousands of illegal-immigrant students who are caught between a decision their parents made when they were young and the situation with U.S. law.



Family: Illegal-immigrant student martyred himself for Dream Act - Washington Times

It is unfortunate that the selfish parents of this young man did not think of the consequences that their poor decision would have on their children.

It is also unfortunate that the offspring of these selfish "parents" blame everyone but those who brought them here illegally.

May he RIP.
He and his family had 18 years to get him legalized and they squandered the time waiting for someone else to do something. Sad indeed but, really, they can only blame themselves.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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Also look at the parents here illegally who insist they will simply abandon their children if they are returned home. Growing up knowing your parents only gave birth to use as a shield and would leave you behind in a heartbeat the minute you don't bring in the free meals has to be pretty depressing.

Still - there are colleges right across the border he could have attended.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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High school senior Joaquin Luna, 18, dressed in a suit, kissed family members, went into the bathroom and shot himself, according to his brother, Diyer Mendoza. In the letters he said he had lost hope in the chances for the Dream Act, which is legislation that would have legalized illegal-immigrant students and young adults but which was blocked in Congress last year.

“He was actually doing this for the cause, mainly the Dream Act,” Mr. Mendoza said. “He was doing this to show politicians, to show that something had to be done because there are a lot of kids out there in the same situation.”

The case highlights the hundreds of thousands of illegal-immigrant students who are caught between a decision their parents made when they were young and the situation with U.S. law.



Family: Illegal-immigrant student martyred himself for Dream Act - Washington Times

It is unfortunate that the selfish parents of this young man did not think of the consequences that their poor decision would have on their children.

It is also unfortunate that the offspring of these selfish "parents" blame everyone but those who brought them here illegally.

May he RIP.

he shot himself because he could not stand being an illegal alien, and wanted legal status in a country where he was considered a crminal.

maybe if he and those that come across the border illegally would come into the USA legally, then he may not have had to kill himself for no reason.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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“He was actually doing this for the cause, mainly the Dream Act,” Mr. Mendoza said. “He was doing this to show politicians, to show that something had to be done because there are a lot of kids out there in the same situation.”

ENOUGH is ENOUGH !

And shame on anyone who tries to make this a racist message

THIS IS MY COUNTRY!

And, because I make This statement

DOES NOT Mean I'm against immigration!!!

YOU ARE WELCOME HERE, IN MY COUNTRY!

Welcome! To come through legally:

1. Get a sponsor!

2. Get a place to lay your head!

3. Get a job!

4. Live By OUR Rules!

5. Pay YOUR Taxes!

6. Learn the LANGUAGE like immigrants have in the past!!!

AND

7. Please don't demand that we hand over our lifetime
savings of Social Security Funds to you.

“When you have to make a choice and don't make it, that is in itself a choice.” --William James
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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he shot himself because he could not stand being an illegal alien, and wanted legal status in a country where he was considered a crminal.

maybe if he and those that come across the border illegally would come into the USA legally, then he may not have had to kill himself for no reason.
The latest evidence by the letters he left behind do not indicate that. I think his parents claimed that to gain sympathy for illegal aliens since they were in this country illegally themselves.
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Old 12-02-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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So instrad of living and fighting for what his beliefs are, he takes the cowardly way out. And we are suppose to learn what by this exactly!

That if these people do not get their way, this is the action they condone, i do not. I think taking one's life is a cowardly way to end it.

If these people want to remain truthful and honest, why do they not put blame where blame belongs, it is always so much easier, when breaking any law, to blame everyone and everything, instead of where the blame truly lies.

So this is the expense they will pay, when not getting their way, is this what they are teaching their children.
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