Single years cost of illegal immigrant births more than wall! (license, enemies)

[UrbanQuest]

https://sputniknews.com/society/2018...yments-report/

Let’s add to that;
Educating these anchor children + free lunch
Educating illegal minors + free lunch
Food stamps for anchor children
Loss of property tax revenue from “Stacking”
Child tax credits for anchor children
Healthcare for anchor and illegal children
Emergency healthcare for adults
Loss of Fed/FICA/Medicare/State/Local taxes for under the table workers
Additional Law Enforcement spending for illegal population
Jailing illegals in Federal/State/County/Local Jails
American citizens killed (murder/accident)
Additional wear and tear spending on infrastructure
Cost American children’s education due to diversion of funding (ex. Jailing and social spending on American poor who might have achieved otherwise
Cost for bilingual accessibility to everything

Vs.


And without illegals who gets hurt;
Profit loss for certain small businesses
Bankruptcy of a few businesses
Democratic votes
Ease of business to find low skilled workers with low turnover
Certain things will be more expensive but prices will still have
to mirror what the market will bear
Profit loss for corporations due to smaller consumer base
Even with tax losses from reduced profits, it would be minimized
anyway, because they just got a major tax cut.
And reduced labor competition more than makes up for any lost jobs.

I’m guessing that the costs of illegals outweighs the advantages 4:1

[Cape Cod Todd]

You forgot to mention the illegals that drive without a license and get in crashes with citizens due to either being drunk or simply not knowing the rules of the road. They cause a crash, wreck your car and injure the passengers and you have no recourse to go after them since they do not have insurance and if you are hurt badly enough to the point where you or your family will sue, good luck having them show up in court. They have the option to disappear. As a result we all pay more in car insurance.



There is nothing good about having a subset of people living among us that are not accountable to the same laws that bind our society.
Heck we have a judge in Mass. that let a heroine dealer go because if he was jailed it may have caused him to be deported. I highly doubt that same judge would have let a citizen drug dealer go.



No one benefits from allowing illegal aliens to live among us including their fellow countrymen that came to America legally.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Nobody will attempt to win an argument that illegal immigration is good/beneficial. Tackling the broken immigration system to better address the economics of the nation’s labor needs (AKA increasing legal immigration and streamlining the process to make it more accessible) + improving border security and making it more difficult to work in the US without documentation, which includes stopping the black market of fake and stolen IDs is the real solution.

It’s a complex and multi-faceted issue and nobody said it would be easy.

It is entertaining to see people attempt to argue that it’s a simple problem with a simple solution. Anyone who repeatedly says that it’s simple, “follow the rules or get out” clearly has no grasp on the issue.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

Nobody will attempt to win an argument that illegal immigration is good/beneficial. Tackling the broken immigration system to better address the economics of the nation’s labor needs (AKA increasing legal immigration and streamlining the process to make it more accessible) + improving border security and making it more difficult to work in the US without documentation, which includes stopping the black market of fake and stolen IDs is the real solution.

It’s a complex and multi-faceted issue and nobody said it would be easy.

It is entertaining to see people attempt to argue that it’s a simple problem with a simple solution. Anyone who repeatedly says that it’s simple, “follow the rules or get out” clearly has no grasp on the issue.

Our immigration system isn't broke. It's just that our immigration laws have not been enforced as they should have been for years now. We don't need anymore immigrants coming here to work blue collared jobs. We have plenty of willing Americans to do any of those jobs for a fair wage.


It's not complex to enforce our immigration laws there just as been no will to do so. That's a pretty simple solution along with removing the incentives for them to come here and a good border wall.


Those who say we can't do any of the above which would end illegal immigration as we know it are the ones that clearly have no grasp on the issue.

[BBBentley]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

Our immigration system isn't broke. It's just that our immigration laws have not been enforced as they should have been for years now. We don't need anymore immigrants coming here to work blue collared jobs. We have plenty of willing Americans to do any of those jobs for a fair wage.


It's not complex to enforce our immigration laws there just as been no will to do so. That's a pretty simple solution along with removing the incentives for them to come here and a good border wall.


Those who say we can't do any of the above which would end illegal immigration as we know it are the ones that clearly have no grasp on the issue.

How come LEOs get to decide which laws will be enforced? We pay them to enforce the law, not to be judge and jury.

What if thousands of us decided to break some Federal law, could we not rightly claim discrimination when we are hauled into court?

What about our laws on aiding and abetting criminals (illegal immigrant are criminal by virtue of violating our laws)? Why aren't the sanctuary city facilitators being charged with this crime?

The laws are there to protect us so why are they not being enforced? Why are so many above the law?

IMO, the best way to deter the constant influx of illegals is to ban the remittances of billions of dollars constantly flowing out of our Nation. I sure don't know how we could ban that but surely we have citizens who are clever enough to devise a method.

There has been enough talk and hand wringing over the years we need to act now.
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[phantompilot]

Tens of billions in direct costs to taxpayers and thousands of Americans killed each year by illegals and the commie traitor leftists are still carrying on with their "Let them all in" open borders nonsense.

The left truly are the Enemies of America.

Plus the media.

[UrbanQuest]

No question the left wants more. They are the ones
especially risk averse to spending what we are for these
people (and anything else for that matter). Something I learned
directly from the O-5 assistant to an adjunct intelligence command
admiral in the US Navy.

It goes along the lines of; “the elites will always sound the alarm to policy
makers; The Unites States of America should always reasonably
attempt to maintain at least 5% of the global population.” That is
a fact! It’s funny because they say that; “this is what’s necessary to keep
America Great in the world”.

Don’t believe the hype folks.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

Nobody will attempt to win an argument that illegal immigration is good/beneficial. Tackling the broken immigration system to better address the economics of the nation’s labor needs (AKA increasing legal immigration and streamlining the process to make it more accessible) + improving border security and making it more difficult to work in the US without documentation, which includes stopping the black market of fake and stolen IDs is the real solution.

It’s a complex and multi-faceted issue and nobody said it would be easy.

It is entertaining to see people attempt to argue that it’s a simple problem with a simple solution. Anyone who repeatedly says that it’s simple, “follow the rules or get out” clearly has no grasp on the issue.

"Tackling the broken immigration system"


I hear this a lot and seldom hear WHAT is "broken".


Please elaborate. Be SPECIFIC.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by BBBentley

How come LEOs get to decide which laws will be enforced? We pay them to enforce the law, not to be judge and jury.

What if thousands of us decided to break some Federal law, could we not rightly claim discrimination when we are hauled into court?

What about our laws on aiding and abetting criminals (illegal immigrant are criminal by virtue of violating our laws)? Why aren't the sanctuary city facilitators being charged with this crime?

The laws are there to protect us so why are they not being enforced? Why are so many above the law?

IMO, the best way to deter the constant influx of illegals is to ban the remittances of billions of dollars constantly flowing out of our Nation. I sure don't know how we could ban that but surely we have citizens who are clever enough to devise a method.

There has been enough talk and hand wringing over the years we need to act now.
.

"How come LEOs get to decide which laws will be enforced?"

I think you are exaggerating a LOT.

LEO's do what they are TOLD TO BY by their superiors. Many superiors are told what to do and NOT do, by POLITICIANS.

[EastwardBound]

Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd

You forgot to mention the illegals that drive without a license and get in crashes with citizens due to either being drunk or simply not knowing the rules of the road. They cause a crash, wreck your car and injure the passengers and you have no recourse to go after them since they do not have insurance and if you are hurt badly enough to the point where you or your family will sue, good luck having them show up in court. They have the option to disappear. As a result we all pay more in car insurance.



There is nothing good about having a subset of people living among us that are not accountable to the same laws that bind our society.
Heck we have a judge in Mass. that let a heroine dealer go because if he was jailed it may have caused him to be deported. I highly doubt that same judge would have let a citizen drug dealer go.



No one benefits from allowing illegal aliens to live among us including their fellow countrymen that came to America legally.

You forget that elites get to have cheap labor to clean their toilets, raise their children and mow their lawns, not to mention greedy employers who can exploit these people to increase their profits.