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That's why the very first sentence I said was forget it and use encryption, no matter what you do it's going to be somewhere at least for some time.
Exactly. If it traversed the Internet from some other email server to get to your email server, it's just as much subject to sifting as it is sitting on a server at those providers.
You can get towers with locks, I'm assuming they have them on any equipment. I have an old Antec sitting here with locks, It's just a flimsy door on the front but that locks and the side panel for the case locks. They aren't going to stop anyone from getting in it but it would certainly let you know if someone was in it unless they had a key becsue they would have to break them
Yeah, we were in a locked cabinet, but we paid a pretty penny for just 2U of that cabinet. Can't imagine what an entire cabinet would cost.
Not Gmail
Not Yahoo (especially!!!)
Not AOL
Not Outlook (you can't CREATE an email account with only outlook)
Not Microsoft mail
I want something that I could create an email account on my home computer, and I can send and receive emails but it never goes through a third party like gmail or aol or anything
You'll basically need your own SMTP server. Which would require a number of other items for it to work. As others have said, you'll need your own domain, DNS service, MX records, etc. You can certainly use providers for these services, but nonetheless, its still extra steps that you'll need to go through.
When you say "third party", you referring to a third party mail provider? Or any third party? The communication from your mail server to your recipient (or vice versa) will still be going through your ISP. So technically, those communications will still be going through third parties. Albeit in this case, they're just providing the communication service as opposed to actual SMTP service.
You can add encryption to email, but that would only work if the party you are communicating with is also setup to communicate securely with you (key exchange or using the same key infrastructure).
I have my own domain with mail service. Problem is this as has been stated. I can get mail without a problem, but sending is the problem. Bellsouth/ATT won't send any email using my domain name as the mail host. I need to use mail.bellsouth.net.
And ATT and all of their daughter company's are using Yahoo as their routing hub for mail. There is no safe way around it. Encryption is the only answer, but Dancing with the Stars folks would never be able to figure that out.
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Reason: Fat fingers
Bellsouth/ATT won't send any email using my domain name as the mail host. I need to use mail.bellsouth.net.
They are probably just blocking the default port. Try 587 or contact your host for alternate.
When I said dropped into a black hole what I meant was the recipients ISP would, if you don't reverse have DNS set up right it's not going to get delivered and that's an issue even on paid hosting servers. The recipient will never know it was sent and the sender does not get a return email with any errors. It's just dumped.
I have my own domain with mail service. Problem is this as has been stated. I can get mail without a problem, but sending is the problem. Bellsouth/ATT won't send any email using my domain name as the mail host. I need to use mail.bellsouth.net.
And ATT and all of their daughter company's are using Yahoo as their routing hub for mail. There is no safe way around it. Encryption is the only answer, but Dancing with the Stars folks would never be able to figure that out.
This is crucial. What error do you get? Or is there no error? Do you get an error when the mail is being transported or do you get an e-mail (NDR) afterwards?
And what do you mean by mail service? Your own server or you farming it out to someone else and if so who?
I'm on U-Verse residential and have more than a dozen e-mail accounts all over the place.
I'd test with Gmail too in an e-mail client to see if it's a port blocking issue which I doubt.
Yeah but do you only e-mail your own domain? I assume the OP wants mail to be transported to another domain. It's going to end up on a 3rd party server at some point.
It's true, that the recipient can be traced unless they did all the same precautions. If I send to a gmail account, then it will end on on Google Servers.
However, that is fine, because I'm more concerned with being secure and private on my end. If my end is entirely secure, it is doubtful it could be traced back to me.
I want freedom, and if every communication I ever send can be read by the government, then I am not free, I am a slave! That's why I want this.
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Originally Posted by thecoalman
You can get towers with locks, I'm assuming they have them on any equipment. I have an old Antec sitting here with locks, It's just a flimsy door on the front but that locks and the side panel for the case locks. They aren't going to stop anyone from getting in it but it would certainly let you know if someone was in it unless they had a key because they would have to break them
I don't need a lock. No one is getting in my room, and I am not important for the government to raid my house just to read an email. I'm not concerned with the security of my home PC.
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Originally Posted by macroy
You'll basically need your own SMTP server. Which would require a number of other items for it to work. As others have said, you'll need your own domain, DNS service, MX records, etc. You can certainly use providers for these services, but nonetheless, its still extra steps that you'll need to go through.
When you say "third party", you referring to a third party mail provider? Or any third party? The communication from your mail server to your recipient (or vice versa) will still be going through your ISP. So technically, those communications will still be going through third parties. Albeit in this case, they're just providing the communication service as opposed to actual SMTP service.
You can add encryption to email, but that would only work if the party you are communicating with is also setup to communicate securely with you (key exchange or using the same key infrastructure).
What's the goal here?
I agree about the encryption. It makes no sense to encrypt unless you want the recipient also to encrypt. Anyway encryption is not necessary.
The goal here is simply to satisfy my paranoia and keep personal emails from being on any email server like gmail or aol, etc.
By the way, I do own my own domains, and I pay for a web server.
So far it seems there are only two ways:
1) a service which would prevent even the government from accessing their data
2) your own domain and server and somehow configure it for email.
It's true, that the recipient can be traced unless they did all the same precautions. If I send to a gmail account, then it will end on on Google Servers.
However, that is fine, because I'm more concerned with being secure and private on my end. If my end is entirely secure, it is doubtful it could be traced back to me.
Owning your own server is far more traceable than using some generic account on GMail or Yahoo.
Even hosting a server in your own house will require a dedicated IP from your ISP, and probably a business grade account to get past port blocks. Every mail server that you send to will know exactly where it came from.
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