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Old 12-12-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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If I wanted to be an EXCELLENT actor, singer, dancer, or public speaker it would be to my advantage to take extensive classes from experts. The competition is incredible out there and in most cases I could not prosper in those fields unless I got training.

So with that in mind, if I am going after higher level well paid professional jobs and want a successful career in a competitive field I need to understand that the interview process is going to be very challenging for the best jobs and the top employers are going to put very strong candidates through an incredible process of difficult interviews. Studies and observation have shown that intensive training and practice under the guidance of experts makes someone a better actor, singer, dancer or public speaker and the people who get the best training likely come out on top.

So with that in mind, why aren't there more people who understand the difficulty of employment interviewing today and pay for training on how to perform well in interviews? (Assuming they were able to find excellent trainers just like Actors do.)

If you really want to turn the world on fire and be a $200K Vice President by the time you are 35, doesn't seem logical you should get advanced training in interview skills so you can beat out the very impressive competition?
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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Why have employment interviews at all? Skill testing will tell an employer a lot more about if a candidate will work out than canned fluff questions.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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There are classes that offer instruction about interviewing as well as job searching. Ones I have heard of were offered by non profit organizations or college workshops.

The interview is how you sell yourself and it goes beyond skills as well. A likeable personality and how one carries themselves and dresses make a big impact. On a job interview you job is to make the employer choose you over the other candidates and a face to face interview is the way not only to sell this pitch but how you will fit in with the workplace culture and peers.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:29 AM
 
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Why have employment interviews at all? Skill testing will tell an employer a lot more about if a candidate will work out than canned fluff questions.
Very few companies hire their employees totally based on skill tests because the personality mix and soft skills really makes the difference in success or failure on the job; skills are important but only part of the mix.

My question still stands!
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:44 AM
 
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If I wanted to be an EXCELLENT actor, singer, dancer, or public speaker it would be to my advantage to take extensive classes from experts. The competition is incredible out there and in most cases I could not prosper in those fields unless I got training.

So with that in mind, if I am going after higher level well paid professional jobs and want a successful career in a competitive field I need to understand that the interview process is going to be very challenging for the best jobs and the top employers are going to put very strong candidates through an incredible process of difficult interviews. Studies and observation have shown that intensive training and practice under the guidance of experts makes someone a better actor, singer, dancer or public speaker and the people who get the best training likely come out on top.

So with that in mind, why aren't there more people who understand the difficulty of employment interviewing today and pay for training on how to perform well in interviews? (Assuming they were able to find excellent trainers just like Actors do.)

If you really want to turn the world on fire and be a $200K Vice President by the time you are 35, doesn't seem logical you should get advanced training in interview skills so you can beat out the very impressive competition?

The people who get to $200k by 35 already do this. The career center at the school I got my MBA from wouldn't let me go on an interview until I did enough mock interviews with them to the point where they thought I was ready. That is fairly common practice at the 15 best MBA programs in the country today.

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Why have employment interviews at all? Skill testing will tell an employer a lot more about if a candidate will work out than canned fluff questions.
Because this would result in companies hiring extremely anti-social people who bring down the net productivity of a team. This would only work if someone works in isolation, and virtually no job exists today where a person works alone.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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Because most people believe this:

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Why have employment interviews at all? Skill testing will tell an employer a lot more about if a candidate will work out than canned fluff questions.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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The managers at the company I work at which is quite large and has many open positions are always shaking their heads in disbelief at the many incredibly inept applicants who come in for interviews. They may have a strong education and lots of experience but they don't know how to sell themselves in the interview. They devoted so much time and effort into their career but forget the fact that to move ahead they need to learn how to sell themselves to people they have never met.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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I don't quite understand why most people would refuse to attend a mock interview even it's offered to them free of charge.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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The managers at the company I work at which is quite large and has many open positions are always shaking their heads in disbelief at the many incredibly inept applicants who come in for interviews.
I dunno; your managers obviously don't know how to interview either. As an employer you are not likely to be particularly looking for someone with good interview skills. You probably have a different skill set you are looking for, as well as a certain set of attitudes and personality traits, and so on. It is up to the interviewer to find the best candidate, regardless of how well the interviewee is at selling himself or herself.

The interviewer should make the interviewee feel relaxed, and get them to open up. If there are weaknesses in the candidate's background, it is important for the interviewer to talk about them lest one mistakenly rule out someone who would be a good fit.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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That is how the game is played. The person who sells themselves best gets the job in most cases. Recruiters and Hiring Managers are not mind readers they can't figure out if someone has the intellectual and technical skills to do the job through some type of Vulcan Mind Meld, they need to get to know what makes the applicant tick, and the interview is the vehicle of choice to do this.

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I dunno; your managers obviously don't know how to interview either. As an employer you are not likely to be particularly looking for someone with good interview skills. You probably have a different skill set you are looking for, as well as a certain set of attitudes and personality traits, and so on. It is up to the interviewer to find the best candidate, regardless of how well the interviewee is at selling himself or herself.

The interviewer should make the interviewee feel relaxed, and get them to open up. If there are weaknesses in the candidate's background, it is important for the interviewer to talk about them lest one mistakenly rule out someone who would be a good fit.
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