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Old 02-14-2013, 12:02 AM
 
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As far as I am concerned, the flashing yellows are great. They save a lot of time. I used to have to wait forever at some of these lights before they installed them.
What was wrong with the left turn arrow followed by yellow arrow, red arrow, then the solid green with the signs that read "left turn yield on solid green"?

It was the same thing, but with less confusion. Your mileage may vary of course, but a yellow arrow means "hurry up and turn left before the light changes" to most valley drivers. We can only hope that they notice that it's flashing, I guess.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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What was wrong with the left turn arrow followed by yellow arrow, red arrow, then the solid green with the signs that read "left turn yield on solid green"?

It was the same thing, but with less confusion. Your mileage may vary of course, but a yellow arrow means "hurry up and turn left before the light changes" to most valley drivers. We can only hope that they notice that it's flashing, I guess.
Nothing was wrong with that, although I do not recall seeing it in my area. What I saw, and still see at Flamingo and Maryland for example, is a green left turn arrow turning into a yellow, then red. You have to wait for the next light to get through. This can last for even 3 lights sometimes when it doesn't need to.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:52 AM
 
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Nothing was wrong with that, although I do not recall seeing it in my area. What I saw, and still see at Flamingo and Maryland for example, is a green left turn arrow turning into a yellow, then red. You have to wait for the next light to get through. This can last for even 3 lights sometimes when it doesn't need to.
Yeah, it's annoying when nobody is coming and you can't turn, but in my neck of the woods, most intersections have the solid green option to turn left after yielding.

I'm pretty sure Maryland northbound at Charleston had the yield on green option and it worked at certain times of day, but could be a deathtrap at others.

We'll see how the flashing yellows work out.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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Turning in to Orleans off of Arville used to have the left green arrow to solid green yield left turn. Now it's just flashing yellow arrow, no solid green "your turn". When traffic is heavy on Arville I've sat through 3 light cycles before I managed to sneak in. Terrible design.

The biggest problem I see with this was they just appeared one day. No warning or PSA to get us used to the idea like there was with the metered freeway on-ramps. Heck, they drone on and on about school being back in session for a month beforehand. Now they are saying the flashing yellows have reduced left turn accidents by 23%. I don't believe it for a second. Just watch the people trying to figure them out. Sounds like they are making up phoney statistics to make up for a very badly implemented, tax funded project.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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Yellow signals are supposed to mean caution. The theory behind the flashing yellow lights is (1) standardize the signals to match the majority of the country (Most cities especially rural ones use the flashing yellow light or "ball" (mostly late at night) and yellow arrows to help the flow of turning traffic and (2) the green ball signaled to some errant drivers that it was safe to pull out in front of oncoming traffic thinking that it was a protected turn (meaning the other side had a red light) and turn without yielding causing accidents.

Most of the signals in the SW corner have the new yellow flashers and I personally like them. Like a previous poster said, it will take some time to get used to them but after a few years it will be like second nature.

On page 22 of the NV DMV driver license handbook explains the signals. "A yellow light means CAUTION. A steady yellow light is a warning that the light will be turning red. If you have not entered the intersection, you must stop. If you are already in the intersection, you should
continue moving and clear it safely. DO NOT speed up to “beat the light.” A flashing yellow light means you may go ahead, but proceed with caution. A solid yellow arrow means the
signal is going to change to red and warns you to clear the intersection. A flashing yellow arrow means you must yield to oncoming traffic and pedestrians. You may complete the turn when it is safe to do so."

But then the true problem that arises here in the valley...do most drivers even read these books when they get their drivers license. Just look at your nearest 4-way stop sign intersection on a busy afternoon. No matter what you do...if you drive in Las Vegas you take an inherent risk, from untrained drivers, drunk drivers, vacationing visitors mesmerized by the lights of the casinos instead of paying attention to the road, pedestrians that like to play chicken with cars, pedestrians that like to wear all black that like to play chicken with cars on a darkened street at night...and then add 2 drops of rain on the pavement and you have an all new degree of entertainment.
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Good post. Maybe they should pass that book out to those that register their vehicles.


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Old 02-14-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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I like them. The sign states yield on flashing yellow, it's not that complicated. Several states are using the flashing yellow arrows.

I will say lately I've been noticing really terrible driving.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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I've never seen a flashing yellow arrow in my life, and I've driven in 42 states. It makes sense, though. Yellow means caution, and arrow means turn, so put the two together, and you have "use caution when turning".
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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I've never seen a flashing yellow arrow in my life, and I've driven in 42 states. It makes sense, though. Yellow means caution, and arrow means turn, so put the two together, and you have "use caution when turning".
If it makes sense, local drivers won't be able to make heads or tails of it. They'll just continue running red lights like they always do. Texting, like they always do. And doing ANYTHING except paying attention to driving, like they always do.

That being said, I like the flashing yellows. It often saves me a few minutes that would otherwise be wasted at a red turn signal, with no opposing traffic.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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The flashing yellows are a great idea and make perfect sense.

I can't believe there are people out there struggling with this.
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