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Old 11-17-2015, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Leafy London
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Agreed. The city is in a terrible state.
NYC is and always has had a very "lived in" look. It's the very epitome of shabby chic. It would not be the same if it were immaculate. I think I preferred 42nd St before they cleaned it up.

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Say what you like about Bloomberg, but he was clearly the better mayor compared to the current incumbent.

London is investing into sparkling new pavements and infrastructure, along with a panorama of new construction zones. All the DDIs in NYC seem to go into building those absurdly ugly, skinny skyscrapers which look like industrial chimneys from a distance.
(coughs)

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Old 11-17-2015, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Blighty
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NYC is and always has had a very "lived in" look. It's the very epitome of shabby chic. It would not be the same if it were immaculate. I think I preferred 42nd St before they cleaned it up.



(coughs)

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"Lived in". I like it. An interesting new euphemism for "cesspit".

I'm among those who prefer the new 22 Bishopsgate to the old design, and, more to the point, it's not pencil thin.


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Old 11-17-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Central London and parts of Central New York share some development patterns that are similar (width of sidewalks, width of arteries, wall-to-wall build, dual CBDs, boroughs, so on and so forth).
Wall-to-wall build is a feature the centre of any city deserving of that name in the traditional sense.
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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Wall-to-wall build is a feature the centre of any city deserving of that name in the traditional sense.
The wall-to-wall aesthetic in some of Central London remind me of parts of Manhattan, particularly the midrise neighborhoods like SoHo or Chelsea.

Every urban city has wall-to-wall build, but they don't necessarily share the same sense in the aesthetics.
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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I think Flatiron, parts of BPC, and the Museum Mile/Central Park east would be the best areas of Manhattan to compare with Central London in terms of aesthetics and level of cleanliness. That is bearing in mind Central London has far better roads and sidewalks.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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I think Flatiron, parts of BPC, and the Museum Mile/Central Park east would be the best areas of Manhattan to compare with Central London in terms of aesthetics and level of cleanliness. That is bearing in mind Central London has far better roads and sidewalks.
Yes!

The Flatiron District was the place that I had in mind when I made the wall-to-wall statement. I agree with your post completely.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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Yes!

The Flatiron District was the place that I had in mind when I made the wall-to-wall statement. I agree with your post completely.
The Flatiron is exquisite beyond words, but I don't see it as very London.

If you want an American city that is reminiscent of prosaic, residential London then Baltimore is the place. Also similar to many northern UK cities, with its rowhouses.

I've never been, but am planning a holiday next late-summer. Fly to BWI, train to DC for 3 night, then Baltimore 3 nights, then Philly, and a week in NYC (need my fix). Fly to Chicago for 3 nights and back home.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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The Flatiron is exquisite beyond words, but I don't see it as very London.

If you want an American city that is reminiscent of prosaic, residential London then Baltimore is the place. Also similar to many northern UK cities, with its rowhouses.

I've never been, but am planning a holiday next late-summer. Fly to BWI, train to DC for 3 night, then Baltimore 3 nights, then Philly, and a week in NYC (need my fix). Fly to Chicago for 3 nights and back home.
Hey, just let us know when you are going to get here. I'm pretty sure some Baltimore Forum folks will show you around (the good, the bad, and the ugly.) At least I will.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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No, not in the least.
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Old 11-20-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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London prosaic and residential? Maybe in the 1980s.
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