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Old 12-26-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Long Island's biggest problem isent the high cost of living or the high taxes ... it's what other posters have said: NIMBYism.

We cannot reduce taxes or lower the cost of living until Long Islander's get out of the 1950s and enter the 21st Century. The small town, single family home, mom n pop business model that created modern Long Island is dead, it's kaput.

Things like the Lighthouse Project would have gone a very long way towards fixing Long Island's woes.

Also, Long Island needs to become a separate state of the Union. This way we can tailor laws and regulations to meet the realities of Long Island instead of the NYC centric view of Albany.
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Old 12-26-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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If I didn't appreciate the place I lived, I'd move too. What I can't understand is why the "departers" constantly feel the need to come here and rationalize their decisions.
Because deep down inside most of them are unhappy with their decision to leave Long Island. They did so only because the fell for a line of fairy tales about the grass being greener elsewhere and it's really not.

Sure, North Carolina has lower property taxes and no income tax ... but how are the public schools down there? What happens when the state can longer make their Medicare/Medicaid payments because 90% of their growth is from retired old farts? Sure these states are growing population-wise but all of it is from oldies and immigrants ... that's not sustainable in the long run.
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Old 12-26-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Tierra del Encanto
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Long Island's biggest problem isent the high cost of living or the high taxes ... it's what other posters have said: NIMBYism.
The taxes here are like a font of dysfunction that strangle household budgets and scare off any and all business that may flirt with opening up shop here. I think that most problems begin and end with the cost of living, especially the taxes. Screaming NIMBYs are probably scared more than anything their house would lose value after paying the taxes for years.

The public sector on LI is like a lamprey, a disgusting parasitic fish. They attach themselves to the host, and keep sucking away until the host dies. I am a fish, fed up with being sucked dry by the local parasites and have realized it's time to leave. These are the mildest words I can muster for the cops, teachers and political hacks on LI that suck at us.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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Also, Long Island needs to become a separate state of the Union. This way we can tailor laws and regulations to meet the realities of Long Island instead of the NYC centric view of Albany.
Just wondering, what laws and regulations do you envision that would meet the needs of Long Island?
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:45 PM
 
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Because deep down inside most of them are unhappy with their decision to leave Long Island. They did so only because the fell for a line of fairy tales about the grass being greener elsewhere and it's really not.

Sure, North Carolina has lower property taxes and no income tax ... but how are the public schools down there? What happens when the state can longer make their Medicare/Medicaid payments because 90% of their growth is from retired old farts? Sure these states are growing population-wise but all of it is from oldies and immigrants ... that's not sustainable in the long run.
How are the public schools in Mastic, Brentwood, CI, etc?

Good and bad everywhere.


As far as aging out, Long Island is losing about 25% of the 18-30 crowd. May be more by now. Meanwhile all those young, working, couples are moving to those greener pastures.
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:25 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Just wondering, what laws and regulations do you envision that would meet the needs of Long Island?
We need freedom from New York's minimum wage (which is higher than the federal minimum wage) and other labor laws (such as the Taylor Law) that chase away businesses. We need to keep the minimum wage as low as possible, abolish all labor unions - especially in the public sector, and in general move away from the small town economic model mentality.

Every day that Long Island remains part of New York is a bad day for Long Island. It's time for Long Island to forge it's own destiny separate from Albany and it's NYC lackeys.
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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We need freedom from New York's minimum wage (which is higher than the federal minimum wage) and other labor laws (such as the Taylor Law) that chase away businesses. We need to keep the minimum wage as low as possible, abolish all labor unions - especially in the public sector, and in general move away from the small town economic model mentality.

Every day that Long Island remains part of New York is a bad day for Long Island. It's time for Long Island to forge it's own destiny separate from Albany and it's NYC lackeys.
How about no longer requiring work permits and getting rid of those silly child labor laws?
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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We need freedom from New York's minimum wage (which is higher than the federal minimum wage) and other labor laws (such as the Taylor Law) that chase away businesses. We need to keep the minimum wage as low as possible, abolish all labor unions - especially in the public sector, and in general move away from the small town economic model mentality.

Every day that Long Island remains part of New York is a bad day for Long Island. It's time for Long Island to forge it's own destiny separate from Albany and it's NYC lackeys.
You do understand that workers will go where the wages are higher so the minimum wage is likely moot? What businesses do you see Long Island attracting, especially with the competition from NYC and an entire country to the west for that matter? What is the business case for Long Island?
No matter what you wish for, at this point Long Island is tied geographically and economically to NYC and there really isn't a destiny separate from that. I think it had several chances to break that hold but without those bridges or tunnels that by-passed NYC or a decent port most of those chances died out. Long Island had a chance to be a tech center but that fizzled along with its aspirations for bio tech. As much as I hate to say it Long Island's destiny may be a bedroom community for NYC, though one with wineries, fantastic beaches, some very good schools and a lot of other amenities that few other places can offer in one place.

Here's one thing Long Island can do, vote the bums out. Vote for people at every level who will work for long Island's best interest. Not sure why that doesn't seem to work but becoming a state with it's own homegrown corrupt pols isn't really much of a change.
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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Critical thinking was never used in planning anything on Long Island. ...
Perhaps now would be a good time to give it a shot.
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Old 12-27-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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Long Island's biggest problem isent the high cost of living or the high taxes ... it's what other posters have said: NIMBYism.

We cannot reduce taxes or lower the cost of living until Long Islander's get out of the 1950s and enter the 21st Century. The small town, single family home, mom n pop business model that created modern Long Island is dead, it's kaput.
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