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Exactly. A huge swath of houses in Huntington station are section 8 already. You can't section 8 areas where no rentals exist, there is only so much the government can try to force.
Unfortunately if Hillary is elected you can be sure she will be all for this program.
Read up on what's been going on in Westchester. HUD decided to make it their whipping boy and has been ramming 'affordable housing' down their throats for years now, starting with a lawsuit that was settled in 2009. The county was required to build 750 affordable-housing units in mostly white communities. They aren't simply using existing housing stock to do that since, as you say, there aren't a lot of rentals in high-income areas.
Instead, a developer buys out a large parcel of land (that was either a multi-acre residential plot, unused commercial land, etc.), proposes to build a large apartment complex on it, and HUD puts pressure on the county to approve the zoning variances by withholding Federal grant money. The developer gets rich while the government pays the rent, and the community suffers.
Read up on what's been going on in Westchester. HUD decided to make it their whipping boy and has been ramming 'affordable housing' down their throats for years now, starting with a lawsuit that was settled in 2009. The county was required to build 750 affordable-housing units in mostly white communities. They aren't simply using existing housing stock to do that since, as you say, there aren't a lot of rentals in high-income areas.
Instead, a developer buys out a large parcel of land (that was either a multi-acre residential plot, unused commercial land, etc.), proposes to build a large apartment complex on it, and HUD puts pressure on the county to approve the zoning variances by withholding Federal grant money. The developer gets rich while the government pays the rent, and the community suffers.
Oh I'm well aware. That all started with the Yonkers fight against the section 8 townhouses in the 90s. Westchester has been dealing with it for years. You can bet however that truly affluent communities will be insulated from this for a variety of reasons, they always do.
Maybe, but the urban poor don't really vote, so it's not a good strategy in that regard. It's more of an end result of drinking the social justice Kool Aid - if you really believe everyone is equal, and evil raciss YT is conspiring to keep proud persons of color out of their communities, then it's logical to want to remedy that injustice by any means necessary. Leftists have been trying to fix social ills by putting different people next to one another since the 1960s - see, e.g., bussing. It never works, but that doesn't stop them from trying.
Some might also say that liberals are quietly trying to gentrify their cities by causing the undesirables to flee. Nice little ancillary benefit.
Sickening. Also politically motivated.
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Actually, I think it's fairly certain that Section 8 housing will not find any place in towns like Lloyd's Harbor or Brookville, mainly because there's no rental housing to be found. But it will push more section 8 housing into "transit-oriented developments" like Ronkonkoma, Hempstead, Patchogue, Wyandanch, Huntington Station, and Riverhead. These are basically new apartments being constructed within walking distance of trains, just what the Feds want for Section 8 recipients.
Section 8 housing already exists in these areas, for broken down buildings owned by slumlords like Pius. They just charge below market rent, collect the Section 8 vouchers, pay some depressed property taxes, and spend absolutely nothing for repairs or upkeep. Now, these slumlords might actually be able to raise their rents and collect even more money! Financed by the rest of us!
This will probably backfire. Obama doesn't care, because he'll be out of office when it does. I can't believe I voted for that fool (once).
Not probably. It's already proven to be a disaster.
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Read up on what's been going on in Westchester. HUD decided to make it their whipping boy and has been ramming 'affordable housing' down their throats for years now, starting with a lawsuit that was settled in 2009. The county was required to build 750 affordable-housing units in mostly white communities. They aren't simply using existing housing stock to do that since, as you say, there aren't a lot of rentals in high-income areas.
Instead, a developer buys out a large parcel of land (that was either a multi-acre residential plot, unused commercial land, etc.), proposes to build a large apartment complex on it, and HUD puts pressure on the county to approve the zoning variances by withholding Federal grant money. The developer gets rich while the government pays the rent, and the community suffers.
This won't be an issue in 99% of LI's nicer areas since as others said there are no rentals. My town has 2 rentals both are low income housing for 62+ and they are both hidden and most don't know they exist. My neighbor across the st has been renting his house for 10 years. He get's $3500 a month for 1800sq ft. I can't see the gov paying that type of rent especially when you need a car. If you live in a town w/ tons of rentals then that's a different story.
There were a few communities that got busted with the racial steering crap in the 80's &90's.
So when they were called out on it they obviously became afraid of any more problems with lawsuits and such. Things didn't work out too well.
I love the part about cracking down on landlords who don't want criminals in their apartments. Liberal logic- convicted criminal rights trump all else.
This won't be an issue in 99% of LI's nicer areas since as others said there are no rentals. My town has 2 rentals both are low income housing for 62+ and they are both hidden and most don't know they exist. My neighbor across the st has been renting his house for 10 years. He get's $3500 a month for 1800sq ft. I can't see the gov paying that type of rent especially when you need a car. If you live in a town w/ tons of rentals then that's a different story.
You're not getting it. They will create rentals, and HUD will force the towns to allow them. There's a developer trying to do that in Chappaqua right now - the local wealthy folks are fighting it but HUD is holding back millions in block grants until the Town of New Castle gives the developer a variance to throw up an apartment building of affordable housing.
You're not getting it. They will create rentals, and HUD will force the towns to allow them. There's a developer trying to do that in Chappaqua right now - the local wealthy folks are fighting it but HUD is holding back millions in block grants until the Town of New Castle gives the developer a variance to throw up an apartment building of affordable housing.
The towns need to give up the block grants, its that easy.
You're not getting it. They will create rentals, and HUD will force the towns to allow them. There's a developer trying to do that in Chappaqua right now - the local wealthy folks are fighting it but HUD is holding back millions in block grants until the Town of New Castle gives the developer a variance to throw up an apartment building of affordable housing.
I understand that, Westchester has land available. LI has basically no land we have already built everywhere especially in Nassau. Unless HUD is somehow going to take over town/county/state park land or somehow use eminent domain to knock down a row of 2-5 houses to build apartments I don't see it happening in the areas of Nassau that don't have rentals (that is almost every nice area).
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