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As for the buses though, get rid of them, and save the county a lot of money, and make the place a lot better. Any bus service should be by a non-subsidized private company which can charge enough in fares to cover operating expenses and make a profit.
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Originally Posted by Chris.A
What about all the people who use them? Would you get rid of the LIRR too while you're at it? Moderator cut: name-calling is v. the ToS
It is not good at getting of NICE Bus because majority of businesses use bus service. Gas Stations, Americana Mall, Roosevelt Field, Sunrise, Green Acres, Walt Whitman, Babylon-Amitiville residents depends on NICE Bus.
Even gas station employees told me they use NICE Bus.
Let them work it out just like everyone else does. There's no mass transit where I live, yet somehow, people continue to live. Live where you can access everything within walking distance, or get a bike, or rely on friends or family or use Uber, etc. Spending over a hundred million dollars a year for buses in a place where there is not not a centralized business/shopping area, nor a high density of population who use the service, but rather a very small segment of the population who are all going in divergent directions at any time, is just insane.
If I didn't drive, I simply wouldn't be able to live where I live. Why should it be different for Nassau county? Why should everyone have to pay so that a few people can live in places where they otherwise could not manage to live? (And very likely, those same people are also the ones who need subsidized rent and food stamps and Medicaid to sustain their lives. What gives THEM the right to demand a certain lifestyle at the expense of others?)
I have to drive my elderly mother to doctors, and do her shopping for her, etc. If I were out of the picture, she wouldn't be able to live here. That's life. You do what you can. You're supposed to live in such a manner that YOU can sustain. If you provide some services which enable people to go beyond that, while costing them little or nothing, of course they are going to "need it". They will then put themselves in conditions under which they otherwise would not have been able to, before such services were provided. This is what government does best. It makes people become dependent, and then their [the government's services] become "a necessity". It's time we stopped this. LI is a perfect example of WHY. Highest taxes; highest cost of living, and yet it's becoming more like a third-world country every day, and there is massive debt and the economy is unsustainable. And why? All so some welfare mamas, drug addicts and illegal immigrants can live the life in suburbia which they never had to earn.
It would make zero sense for Nassau to not have a bus system, while Queens and Suffork counties do.....
It would make zero sense for Nassau to not have a bus system, while Queens and Suffork counties do.....
It's complete elitist nonsense to insinuate that the bus should be eliminated. Such thinking seems to come from those people with outdated white flight mentalities who think public transit is bad, when the opposite is true in reality.
Besides, would they really want all those extra people driving and making the roads even more crowded?
It's complete elitist nonsense to insinuate that the bus should be eliminated. Such thinking seems to come from those people with outdated white flight mentalities who think public transit is bad, when the opposite is true in reality.
Besides, would they really want all those extra people driving and making the roads even more crowded?
Give the morons what they want. Besides the only way for the bus system to work is if it has the SAME service span as the LIRR or the buses are structured to feed into the LIRR as quickly as possible. Sadly even the Uber and train service is bad. It ain't just NICE the whole of long island has a horrible transit network. If the fares were integrated there would be a reason to use it but with gas cheap the only way you will get people on the bus is if the bus fare is included in the LIRR fare.
I am not anti bus, I don't want to pay $1 more in property taxes. The LIRR is a different animal, the $$ that flows from people commuting to NYC to the LI economy has to be at minimum 20 billion a year. The economic impact the LIRR provides to the region is irreplaceable. The bus system generally carries people to low wage jobs and many of these people don't even live in Nassau county.
We can't abandon the bus, disabled people and to a lesser extent elderly do rely on the bus. There has to be a solution w/o going to the tax payer.
So where should buses go to attract more people to them? Property taxes go to schools buddy not the bus system which doesn't get people to major places quickly.
It's complete elitist nonsense to insinuate that the bus should be eliminated. Such thinking seems to come from those people with outdated white flight mentalities who think public transit is bad, when the opposite is true in reality.
Besides, would they really want all those extra people driving and making the roads even more crowded?
So where should buses go to attract more people to them? Property taxes go to schools buddy not the bus system which doesn't get people to major places quickly.
Tax bills contain school taxes and general taxes, the general taxes are made up of Nassau County and Township taxes. If you live in a village then you have village taxes also. The The bus money Nassau County contributes comes from the general fund of which I pay $148.99 a year to.
Most of the people who have to use buses to get to the stores and such, are NOT in any way helping the economy. They are the ones draining it (Most of those who take the bus are spending Food Stamps, not cash). This is why, before Metrocard days, in the City, you always had higher RE values and nicer businesses in the "double fare zones".
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Apparently, Mr. l1995
has never ridden on a NICE bus....
Yeah, people who don't want their habitat turning into this are evil white elitists!
People like Mr. l1995 and their wishful fairytale thinking are the reason why NY just keeps sliding further and further into the sewer.
You're incredibly misinformed, NYC's public transit system is the backbone of the rapid gentrification we're seeing. The most affordable areas in NYC tend to be the ones with the worst public transit options.
And what makes you think all bus riders are using food stamps and not cash? That's an incredibly dumb thing to think, even if some of them use EBT, it doesn't mean they're not spending cash.
Another thing, public bus service has existed in Long Island for quite some time, it's not new at all.
You must live in a cave or something thinking "NY keeps sliding further into the sewer", or maybe your knowledge of what NYC is like is stuck in 1981. I bet you couldn't even afford to live in many of the neighborhoods that were once white flighted. Property values in Bushwick are probably way higher than that of somewhere like Levittown.
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Why is NICE bus good, forum poster l1995?
A lot of Long Islanders don't have cars and need a way to get to work. Also, do you really want hundreds of thousands more people on the road?
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