MTA To Eliminate LIRR Employee Double Time Pay (Union, Taylor: bankrupt, contractors)

[BugsyPal]

Oh this is going to get very interesting. *LOL*


https://nypost.com/2019/08/04/mta-wa...orkers-report/

Remember LIRR workers like Metro North aren't covered by NYS Taylor laws and thus can go out on strike.

[sabbathunter]

Originally Posted by BugsyPal

Oh this is going to get very interesting. *LOL*


https://nypost.com/2019/08/04/mta-wa...orkers-report/

Remember LIRR workers like Metro North aren't covered by NYS Taylor laws and thus can go out on strike.

They are covered by NRLA, which can restrict strikes for a period of time. But the MTA under the same rules cannot just eliminate double time pay.

The Railway Labor Act Simplified

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by sabbathunter

They are covered by NRLA, which can restrict strikes for a period of time. But the MTA under the same rules cannot just eliminate double time pay.

The Railway Labor Act Simplified

No, they can't. But MTA is going to do it via contract negotiations, which is the way to go. Unions aren't going to go for it unless everybody gets their taste. Cannot see them throwing younger workers, new or future hires under a bus (or in this case train), coming away empty handed.

"The MTA is looking to make big changes to LIRR union contracts, including doing away with double-time pay for certain overtime assignments, scrutinizing workers who call out sick, and being able to contract out work whenever it wants, according to documents obtained by Newsday."

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/...hip-1.34564095

[manekeniko]

My .02: "being able to contract work whenever it wants" is the part that matters most. See a slippery slope? Yeah, good.

[VA Yankee]

Love it! no statements that we will need to work hard to reach common ground instead the "Transport Workers Union president John Samuelsen accused the agency of “creating a hostile environment that could cause strikes across the entire MTA system.”

So right from the start there getting ready to go guns a blazing

[BugsyPal]

Well again the only MTA workers able to legally strike are LIRR and Metro-North. NYCT are firmly under state umbrella that subjects them to the Taylor Law. Last time NYC transit workers went out it cost them and union dearly, just as it did each time before. They won't do it again, well not if they are smart. Andrew Cuomo is itching for a fight with MTA and would likely welcome a chance to put the screws on.

[under a mountain]

Let them strike, fire them all, and tell them they can sign a new contract the next day and all is forgiven.


The rank and file don't want a strike.

[wheelsup]

I don't work for the LIRR but do work under the RLA.

This part of the article:

give itself the option of hiring private contractors to handle “any work” it wants,

Would be a complete non-starter from a negotiations standpoint and would never be allowed to be in the contract. That is scope busting plain and simple and no union worth their salt would even begin to allow it.

In the past it has happened in my industry (airline) because carriers have gone bankrupt and a judge has imposed a contract which has allowed it. After 9/11 was when it especially was gutted.

Frankly the MTA has no leg to stand on here asking for concessions. There is no alternative to the LIRR and they are not in financial distress. The taxpayers will continue to take it from the behind.

[tj2013]

Overpaid do nothings have been milking the system for years.

Then they have there phony disability pensions which are outright frauds.

[OyCrumbler]

And so how's this all going?