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Old 04-18-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: clifton heights, PA
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this is for a house in delaware county , PA.. doing a 203k streamline due to our budget.... can you PLEASE go over this and tell me if anything stands out that could be reduced or done away with???
appreciate very much....1st time homebuyer, too....first american mortg in PA.


FHA Fixed 30-Year

$ 131,442 @ 5.250 % for 360 / 360 mths
105,000.00 purchase price
28,212.00 alterations
5,073.63 prepaid item reserve
4,462.75 est closing cost
PMI, MIP, Funding Fee (+) 2,892.38
Discount (Borrower paid) (+) 657.21
131,442.00 -loan amt
CC Paid by Seller (-) 6,300.00
Financed 203k- 650.00
needed to close 7,905.97
725.83 P & I
75.00 haz. insur.
311.67 RE taxes
95.80 Mortg Ins.
1,208.30 - monthly payment


ORIGINATION CHARGES
Commitment Fee First American Mortgage, LLC Borrower $ 650.00
Supplemental Fee Borrower $ 412.50

OTHER CHARGES
Loan Discount Fee Borrower 0.500% $ 657.21
Appraisal Fee First American Mortgage, LLC Borrower $ 375.00
Credit Report Fee First American Mortgage, LLC Borrower $ 50.00
Flood Certification Fee First American Mortgage, LLC Borrower $ 16.50
Up-Front Mortgage Insurance HUD Borrower $ 2,892.38
Appraisal Reinspection Borrower $ 200.00
Notary Fee Borrower $ 50.00
Lender's Title Insurance Borrower $ 883.75
Wire Fee / Courier Fee Borrower $ 50.00
Electronic Document Delivery Fee Borrower $ 50.00
Closing Protection Letter Borrower $ 75.00
Endorsements Borrower $ 150.00
Title Bringdown Borrower $ 100.00
Mortgage Recording Charge Borrower $ 350.00
Transfer Tax Borrower $ 1,050.00
Hazard Insurance Reserves First American Mortgage, LLC Borrower $ 75.00 x 2 mth(s) $ 150.00
County Property Tax Reserves First American Mortgage, LLC Borrower $ 311.67 x 12 mth(s) $ 3,740.04
Daily Interest Charges First American Mortgage, LLC Borrower $ 18.9060 x 15 day(s) $ 283.59
Hazard Insurance Premium Borrower $ 75.00 x 12 mth(s) $ 900.00
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Old 04-18-2011, 07:46 PM
 
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Unless that would rent for 2000 per month and/or the schools were exceptionally good; I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. My total closing costs on the house I am sitting in, were 275.00. I paid cash and bought from WFC.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA
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Looks OK, most lenders charge a slightly higher rate for the 203k streamline than the regular 203k.

huntrevor - like you pointed out, you paid cash, and I suspect you didn't buy in PA where there is a 1% transfer tax per side (higher in some areas), big difference.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Smile Not bad for a 203K

Usually, fees on 203K's are higher so this looks OK. Shane is correct.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:23 PM
 
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Looks ok, all in all nothing pops out. The list is actually pretty detailed. Some of the more "mom & pop" type mortgage brokers don't bother charging for all the "delivery fees" but nobody is going to go broke / get rich on a couple a hundred bucks...
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA
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Originally Posted by ShanetheMortgageMan View Post
Looks OK, most lenders charge a slightly higher rate for the 203k streamline than the regular 203k.

huntrevor - like you pointed out, you paid cash, and I suspect you didn't buy in PA where there is a 1% transfer tax per side (higher in some areas), big difference.
I meant:

...most lenders charge a slightly higher rate for the 203k streamline than the regular 203b.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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Unless that would rent for 2000 per month and/or the schools were exceptionally good; I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. My total closing costs on the house I am sitting in, were 275.00. I paid cash and bought from WFC.
Aren't you special.

Her PITI monthly payment on a minimum down deal is $1,208/mo. WHY would the place have to have rental potential of $2k/mo. for it to make sense?
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: clifton heights, PA
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Cant thank you all enough for your words and feedback.... Yes if i had cash, i probably wouldnt even be looking at this place... But i dont, and just wanted to know if it was all ok, or if something stood out that i could negotiate or do away with..

CHET, whats considered on this sheet to be DELIVERY FEES???
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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Aren't you special.

Her PITI monthly payment on a minimum down deal is $1,208/mo. WHY would the place have to have rental potential of $2k/mo. for it to make sense?
It wouldn't if the schools were exceptionally good, as I stated. But, since that is unlikely, the metric I use is 1.5% of purchase price per month for rent will allow you to a) have professional management b) pay commission on leases c) do necessary repairs d) make a decent ROI, even if the value of the property stays flat for years.

People split up, and get transferred all of the time. You need to cover yourselves for all scenarios. I'm in the Phoenix Market, and while it would have to be different, the numbers and the money are the same. That's why we have Australians, Canadians, and Chinese buying here, because they can get the returns.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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It wouldn't if the schools were exceptionally good, as I stated. But, since that is unlikely, the metric I use is 1.5% of purchase price per month for rent will allow you to a) have professional management b) pay commission on leases c) do necessary repairs d) make a decent ROI, even if the value of the property stays flat for years.

People split up, and get transferred all of the time. You need to cover yourselves for all scenarios. I'm in the Phoenix Market, and while it would have to be different, the numbers and the money are the same. That's why we have Australians, Canadians, and Chinese buying here, because they can get the returns.
Certainly not a bad thing to try to be as "safe" as possible, but most people buy a home to live in not for returns.
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