Gov. Christie won't sign gay marriage in NJ

[HeatherLynn822]

Originally Posted by timneh5

The only other group that I can think of is divorced men and women. What other groups are there?

Not all churches will allow a Catholic to marry a non~Catholic who won't convert / be baptized.
So, to answer your question, 2 non~Catholics probably would not want to marry in a church.... but 1 Catholic + 1 non~Catholic might, and are often denied.

[NJGOAT]

Originally Posted by HeatherLynn822

Not all churches will allow a Catholic to marry a non~Catholic who won't convert / be baptized.
So, to answer your question, 2 non~Catholics probably would not want to marry in a church.... but 1 Catholic + 1 non~Catholic might, and are often denied.

The only time the Catholic church denies marrying a Catholic to a non-Catholic in the church is if the non-Catholic is also not a Christian or has never been baptized.

I was baptized raised and confirmed Lutheran. My wife was raised Catholic. She wanted to get married in the Catholic church and I felt her beliefs/convictions were stronger than mine and I agreed. I produced a copy of my baptismal record, we attended pre-marriage counseling with the priest (suprisingly we got a lot out of it) and went to pre-cannae classes (total waste of time). The only caveat was that we agreed to raise our children in the Catholic church. I was never asked to convert and join the church. My only restriction is that I cannot take communion as there is a difference in belief between Catholics and Protestants over what it is.

Regardless, churches are completely different entities from the state. A church is allowed to essentially discriminate in anyway it wants and is only beholden to public access laws. Meaning they have to provide handicap facilities, fire exits, etc. and anyone can enter the public areas. After that they can choose to discriminate against you for any reason they want in terms of their traditions and beliefs.

FWIW, I think we will sooner see the establishment of full and equal marriage rights under Federal law (most likely at first as "civil unions") followed by the establishment of a national gay pride holiday and the first gay President LONG before you will see most churches change their stance on the issue.

[CaptainNJ]

Bill barring 'mom,' 'dad' from texts passes

thats an old article but its important to understand that its the crazies that push this type of stuff in this country. then they try to sneak things through the legislative process and trick the masses into believing all they want is equality. the crazies dont want equality in marriage, they want to destroy the institution of marriage. just like these crazies who want to remove the notion of gender from our society. i started seeing these crazies when i took silly classes in college just to fill a requirement. i took some kind of anthropology class that focused on gender, the goal of these people is basically to eliminate our gender identities. you guys have no idea how crazy these people are and they are the ones that are involved in these things.

[JERSEY MAN]

I'm old school and an old fart. I'm not in favor of it either. Christie has my back on this one.

[manderly6]

I didn't actually realize NJ was way ahead of most of the county on this until I read this article on CNN.

Rhode Island legislature passes civil union bill - CNN.com

[metaljaybird]

Originally Posted by manderly6

I didn't actually realize NJ was way ahead of most of the county on this until I read this article on CNN.

Rhode Island legislature passes civil union bill - CNN.com

Or way behind, depending on how you look at it.