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Old 03-02-2023, 09:45 PM
 
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In addition, the Sunbelt states on average have much worse public schools that in NJ. So many families end up paying for private schools. Also, local taxes often don't include thing like garbage disposal that needs to be paid separately.

Also, NJ pays a lot of money to maintain both highways and public transportation. Most Southern states have no public transportation to speak off, aside from maybe some buses. Although at the rate they are growing, they will most likely start to experience horrible traffic congestion in a few years...

And I don't know, most NJ towns pay for a lot of free services. Things like free kids programming in the library, low cost summer camps, municipal swimming pools, free outdoor performances over the summer, low cost sports leagues for kids, etc. Do any of the Southern states have something similar?
Same thing happens in New Jersey. The best public schools are found in the expensive districts, kept out of reach to most by home prices and property taxes. In Florida, a family pays for private school. In New Jersey, a family buys a house in Chatham. Tomato Tomahto.

At the end of the day, a child succeeds with strong parental involvement and who emphasize success and/or education. The chances further increase the more resources and money said parents have. Taxes and state programs will not make any difference.
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Old 03-08-2023, 07:53 AM
 
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Same thing happens in New Jersey. The best public schools are found in the expensive districts, kept out of reach to most by home prices and property taxes. In Florida, a family pays for private school. In New Jersey, a family buys a house in Chatham. Tomato Tomahto.
Well, I agree that the best public schools in NJ are in the expensive towns mostly populated by the rich. However, there are enough "Middle Class" towns with an above average school districts where taxes are not too high for NJ. Towns like East Brunswick, Fair Lawn, Rutherford, etc. If the family buys a modest house, they might be paying $10 - $15k in property taxes. And if the family has more than one kid, then the schools are a bargain compared to paying private school tuition.


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At the end of the day, a child succeeds with strong parental involvement and who emphasize success and/or education. The chances further increase the more resources and money said parents have. Taxes and state programs will not make any difference.
I of course agree that parental involvement and emphasize on education is critical. But the quality of schools is also critical. Strong parenting and emphasis on education can overcome an average school but not horrible schools. And state programs are critical for the under achieving kids. Our daughter was behind in speech and we became eligible for early intervention program. She was also slightly behind in learning to read so she received extra help in school in addition to us making her practice. Finally she is at her grade level in reading in first grade. So local and state programs are extremely helpful...
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Old 03-08-2023, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Liberal, progressive socialist democrats have declared war on the suburbs and their often exclusionary zoning that prevents density housing.
Exclusionary zoning has been the bastion of progressivism over the decades as much as inclusionary zoning. The annals of urban planning have been replete with progressives wanting to restrict growth and density in the name of environmentalism. It's funny seeing conservatives now defend a practice which was the bastion of progressive NIMBYism for decades.
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