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Old 04-12-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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i was just asking a question but got a lot of
smart answers, but I shouldn't have to defend
myself for asking it, so whatever. make it
out how you want.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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^ no it's not. you push people far enough
and it will happen. just because they were
not hand in hand with occupy wall street
doesn't mean they wouldn't do it for their
own cause.


don't sleep on people.
Stop and Frisk was a cause much loser to them, and again, there was no one came out.

No one comes out as landlords get rid of low end tenants in gentrifying neighborhoods. Said tenants generally have to scramble and care for themselves as best they can.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Also with the increase of higher Tax Paying residents in the city, the city has been building better newer affordable housing buildings in the city and so some of these poor people are not complaining about a sweet deal like that. Some of these Higher Paying Tax payers are now renting in some Tenement building somewhere in the Lower East Side, Harlem and in Brooklyn, while the previous poor tenant got accepted in a new building across the street or elsewhere in the city.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:54 PM
 
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Look to the past to understand the present. Look to the present to know the future.

Gentrification has been occuring since the late 50s and 60s, picked up in the 70s when the hippie gen decided to settle down, and really blew up in the 80s with the advent of the "Yuppie".

Do the homework. What happened to those generations? What occured, when their children reached school age?

LOL!

They fled to the suburbs. Gentrification accelerated from the laste 80s, and its only recently that gentrifiers have been forgoing the suburbs.

Until the late 90s the cycle of life is one moved to NYC as a single person, got married and had kids. Maybe even bought property. As soon as one got worried about schools a flight to the suburbs came. NYCpublic high schools are not good, except for maybe 10 of them. Clearly most of the kids from affluent/upper middle class families dont attend public schools.

We will see what happens to this new wave of gentrifyers.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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NYC's underclass don't protest. That's just the point, they've grown to use to having everything handled by social workers for them.

What world do you live in. Social workers are over worked with huge case loads and cannot pamper any one.

More likely the poor have accepted their lot in life with a shrug, grumble but dont organize.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:04 PM
 
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there were the nyc draft riots of july 1863 and the la rodney king riot of 1992. None of them though were instigated by hungry stomachs.
lmao!!!!
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:23 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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What world do you live in. Social workers are over worked with huge case loads and cannot pamper any one.

More likely the poor have accepted their lot in life with a shrug, grumble but dont organize.

Not exactly. Specific to tenant interests, they are bought out by landlords and they take the money rather than organize with other tenants.

This cost is factored into building purchases.

Social workers being overwhelmed is a reason that everyone should pitch in and try to help the people directly around them.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:30 PM
 
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What world do you live in. Social workers are over worked with huge case loads and cannot pamper any one.

More likely the poor have accepted their lot in life with a shrug, grumble but dont organize.
I've known people who had case workers to place them in housing. Usually either SRO's or housing in the worst neighborhoods (public housing wait lists take a long time). But yes, caseworkers do place people and often do make decisions for their clients. It can get to the point where clients deliberately make under a certain amount of money on the books in order to qualify for welfare.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:45 PM
 
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Default back on topic..

It's pushing Deep...

Getting off the J train on Crescent St station in Cypress Hills (north side of ENY), Brooklyn tonight. I see 7 white women and 2 white men who appear to be together, some had tattoos and hipster straw hats were getting off the same stop, they appeared a bit nervous. The locals of the community were looking, not with malice but with curiosity, people were turning their heads, the local cops of the 75th who walk the beat on Fulton St everynight were also looking but with curiosity. This is personally my second major sighting within a 3 week time frame. This is now 10 stops away from Kosciuszko St, and this is also 10 stops away from Myrtle-Wyckoff Avenues.

The gentrification of 'northern ENY' has begun ?
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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The white population has actually shrunk in East NY... There used to be some by Cleveland, Norwood, Crescent, Cypress Hills... Once you hit Van Siclen things changed dramatically... Alot of pioneers for that area that came late 90s early 2000s moved to another part of Brooklyn or out of Brooklyn altogether...

In terms of what you see on the trains and the 25-30% numbers... Train passenger numbers are somewhat skewed... I highly doubt that the population we're discussing make more than 10% or at most 15% of the pop. around there... Same goes for the L train... every hipster and their mother takes the L train (it's in every hipsters bucket list to take the L train at least once) and visits friends in Bushwick so you'll see a bunch coming in and out of Halsey by Wyckoff and even some by Moffat and you'll assume that Halsey especially has become hippyland but the reality is that the presence is almost entirely confined to one building on Eldert Lane and other than that, the rest of the area is entirely black and hispanic...
6 years later, Bushwick has way more white people than that
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