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What city in this nation has a flourishing middle class that has a top notch QOL? Anywhere you go you can find a good portion of the population living in subpar QOL conditions. Some cities might just hide them better than others but during an era that lacks opportunities, pretty sure that social issues exist.
thats a pretty ignorant statement, not even counting southern cities or smaller cities:
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Originally Posted by aaronkc
This is my list of reasonably priced, nicer cities that are good to move to, depending on each person's preferences on culture and weather:
Portland, Seattle, Sacramento, Denver, Minneapolis, Columbus, Pittsburgh. San Diego is kinda pricey, but I feel like it's worth it too if you like that kinda setting.
I wouldn't live down south, but that's just me.
most American cities/metros are middle class friendly, except the biggest ones
The biggest that come to mind are Atlanta, Dallas, and Orlando.
There are hoods in all three but those are chronically poor people who aren't working.
Middle class salaries can buy or rent homes in all those places which you'd have to be a Millionaire in NYC to afford.
After those three cities- I'd still say places like San Jose, Philadelphia, Phoenix and Chicago can be expensive places to live, but working a middle class job like retail manager, classroom teacher, or deputy city treasurer you can rent a good apartment in a decent part of town (downtown district or otherwise)- albeit not have a lot of money for some of the more expensive entertainment venues in such places.
NYC's middle class is duct taped together by ridiculous social programs.
So in these cities, someone can buy a home in a location that is just as walkable as NYC while making less than $60k?
i heard some people say nyc nightlife fell off, is this accurate?
It's been that way for way over a decade now depending on who you ask. I haven't partied in NYC in well....over a decade. I save my money and go on party binges overseas. It sucks when I am saving up for it but who wants to blow $9 on a BEER ?
I am a native 1970's 80's. There is no way in hell you can drag me to the new meat market district or anywhere for that matter. BROOKLYN you say ? Sure can you organize and pay for my luxury sedan that will take me home at 4am...because I sure as hell won't be taking the subway with a full bladder....been there done that and it wasn't pretty.
The party is at home....good booze smoking allowed no security and I don't need to dress or travel for it.
It's been that way for way over a decade now depending on who you ask. I haven't partied in NYC in well....over a decade. I save my money and go on party binges overseas. It sucks when I am saving up for it but who wants to blow $9 on a BEER ?
I am a native 1970's 80's. There is no way in hell you can drag me to the new meat market district or anywhere for that matter. BROOKLYN you say ? Sure can you organize and pay for my luxury sedan that will take me home at 4am...because I sure as hell won't be taking the subway with a full bladder....been there done that and it wasn't pretty.
The party is at home....good booze smoking allowed no security and I don't need to dress or travel for it.
You can still easily get a beer for $5 in manhattan or even $3 at happy hour. The Meat Packing and SoHo clubs have never been and will never be your scene. Drinks there have always been overpriced compared to what normal people would pay, that's nothing new ($20+ cocktails). Nightlife is alive and well, and there's something for every type and budget
You can still easily get a beer for $5 in manhattan or even $3 at happy hour. The Meat Packing and SoHo clubs have never been and will never be your scene. Drinks there have always been overpriced compared to what normal people would pay, that's nothing new ($20+ cocktails). Nightlife is alive and well, and there's something for every type and budget
I hardly consider having a beer at a pub a night out. That was never what NYC was famous for....big parties big clubs debauchery. That's what I am into. I can go down to Daytona Beach and sit at a pub...different tastes obviously.
I hardly consider having a beer at a pub a night out. That was never what NYC was famous for....big parties big clubs debauchery. That's what I am into. I can go down to Daytona Beach and sit at a pub...different tastes obviously.
i heard some people say nyc nightlife fell off, is this accurate?
Yes. Within the last 10 years. All the clubs and bar that I used to go to in the 90's-early 2000's are gone. Nightlife has changed in many cities across the country. Not only in NYC. Miami, LA, and Vegas. It's wack or maybe I'm getting older...
Yes. Within the last 10 years. All the clubs and bar that I used to go to in the 90's-early 2000's are gone. Nightlife has changed in many cities across the country. Not only in NYC. Miami, LA, and Vegas. It's wack or maybe I'm getting older...
no, jus seems like its wack
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