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View Poll Results: Are You in Favor of Charter Schools?
Yes 41 46.07%
No 39 43.82%
Undecided 9 10.11%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-06-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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Charter schools should be abolished.

Parents do not have the knowledge or expertise needed to place their children in the right schools. Do you treat your own cancer or do you hire a specialist? Similarly, teachers should be given the discretion to educate children.
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Old 03-06-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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Charter schools should be abolished.

Parents do not have the knowledge or expertise needed to place their children in the right schools. Do you treat your own cancer or do you hire a specialist? Similarly, teachers should be given the discretion to educate children.
Oh boy...next!
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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This blatantly false. BY LAW, charter school admissions are carried out by random select (lottery). The process must be transparent and auditors observe the selection. The poor child in the projects has exactly the same odds of being selected as does the trust fund child in the luxury condo
I'm not talking about the kids education. The administration wins at the expense of poorer parents who are unable to protest the charter school effectively.
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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Exactly! I don't care about the kids' education!


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I'm not talking about the kids education. The administration wins at the expense of poorer parents who are unable to protest the charter school effectively.
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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I'm not talking about the kids education. The administration wins at the expense of poorer parents who are unable to protest the charter school effectively.
what does this even mean??
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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Charter schools should be abolished.

Parents do not have the knowledge or expertise needed to place their children in the right schools. Do you treat your own cancer or do you hire a specialist? Similarly, teachers should be given the discretion to educate children.
So what you're saying is, you shouldn't be trusted to select your own oncologist. Keep that in mind if ever you have cancer so you can ask one of De Blasio's bureaucrat's to pick one for you
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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The teacher's union is one of the most powerful lobbies in the country. Statements like "hose rules and regs were not created by teacher's unions; they were created by legislators." are disingenuous at best. It's ironic that you accuse Blake of being ignorant.
It's not disingenuous; it's the truth. They may be a powerful lobby in your opinion, but they don't make the rules of what happens in schools. No teacher would support lifting out of school suspensions or mainstreaming ALL children into regular ed classes. I really don't know how to speak with someone who so blatantly makes up lies to fit an incorrect narrative.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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what does this even mean??
It means corporate reformers and charter school snakes (like Eva) exploit the poor to make money. No wealthy school system would tolerate charter school scammers. Look at how they work. The fact that they go over the heads of local officials and straight to state and federal legislators that they lobby says a lot.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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It's not disingenuous; it's the truth. They may be a powerful lobby in your opinion, but they don't make the rules of what happens in schools. No teacher would support lifting out of school suspensions or mainstreaming ALL children into regular ed classes. I really don't know how to speak with someone who so blatantly makes up lies to fit an incorrect narrative.
The administrators & bureaucrats are often (possibly usually) the biggest problem in the whole system. One kid in my son's class had a medical emergency and nobody called their parents because the cell numbers on the emergency care were "long distance". Just an indication of how stuck in the stone age some of these regulations are
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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The administrators & bureaucrats are often (possibly usually) the biggest problem in the whole system. One kid in my son's class had a medical emergency and nobody called their parents because the cell numbers on the emergency care were "long distance". Just an indication of how stuck in the stone age some of these regulations are
And that's the teacher's unions's fault? Anyway, I'm all for lifting some of these regulations. Unfortunately the charter industry lobbies to keep them in place for public schools, while demanding autonomy for charter schools. What jerks.
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