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Old 09-05-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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If this was 25 years ago I'd understand safety as an issue to leave. Or if you live in East New York and are too poor to move somewhere else. Otherwise, NYC is in the top tier of safest cities in North America.
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Oh, boy. It looks like I have unintentionally hurt some feelings.
Because your comment makes no sense.
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Because your comment makes no sense.
Admittedly, it would have been better if I had used my 5 AM walk time as an example, instead of 8:15 PM.
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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If this was 25 years ago I'd understand safety as an issue to leave. Or if you live in East New York and are too poor to move somewhere else. Otherwise, NYC is in the top tier of safest cities in North America.
As I stated in my first post, I left because of the weather, not due to safety issues.
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:58 AM
 
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Admittedly, it would have been better if I had used my 5 AM walk time as an example, instead of 8:15 PM.
Still an irrelevant post in the context of this thread.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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Still an irrelevant post in the context of this thread.
It's actually quite relevant, even if it inadvertently ruffles feathers:

Maybe the grass really IS greener? Share stories of leaving New York

The OP asked for people to share stories, not give PC responses.

What is irrelevant is this inordinate focus on one of my statements, as it threatens to derail the thread.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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It's actually quite relevant, even if it inadvertently ruffles feathers:

Maybe the grass really IS greener? Share stories of leaving New York

The OP asked for people to share stories, not give PC responses.

What is irrelevant is this inordinate focus on one of my statements, as it threatens to derail the thread.
You were scared to walk your dog at 8pm in NYC?
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:48 AM
 
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I was going to agree with you til I got to your last paragraph. That's a sick opinion. Maybe you should focus on the men not being "rapist material". It takes a rapist/criminal to determine if a woman or child is "rape material". The way you stated this, you sound like you have the mindset of a rapist, if you think you are able to determine who is "rape material" or not. Disgusting.

P.S. Was this woman "rape material" Woman, 73, Raped in Central Park in Broad Daylight?
How gender normative of you.
I'd like to believe I live in a society where men can be raped too, and women could be rapists of other women.

I'm offensive and horrible, I'll admit. My point still stands that some people use all kinds of excuses and latent prejudice in depicting scenes that aren't going to happen.

People will commit crimes. People will be victims.
People will abide by the law. People will be safe.

If you don't feel safe on the streets of New York City- you're likely the kind who projects a sense of fear that in reality is accusations to those around you. Maybe that's a great way to be made a target.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Although the crime stats are down, from my perspective living in NYC is not a natural state of living. It's like living in a rumbling, noisy, confined car engine. I am battling PTSD so it's highly magnified for me. Existing in such an environment is bound to heighten healthy peoples senses and contribute to a sense of being unsafe. I also get that some people have accepted this way of living as normal. To me it's the abnormal becoming normal.
I'm in a place right now that has space, real safety, nice people, entertainment, access to nature, and the only thing that I hear right now is the wind and birds singing. That is normal to me.
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Old 09-05-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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Although the crime stats are down, from my perspective living in NYC is not a natural state of living. It's like living in a rumbling, noisy, confined car engine. I am battling PTSD so it's highly magnified for me. Existing in such an environment is bound to heighten healthy peoples senses and contribute to a sense of being unsafe. I also get that some people have accepted this way of living as normal. To me it's the abnormal becoming normal.
I'm in a place right now that has space, real safety, nice people, entertainment, access to nature, and the only thing that I hear right now is the wind and birds singing. That is normal to me.
This does make sense to me, and I may end up living in a place like that someday because eventually I'm going to need more space, but I actually really like the idea of the rumbling car engine -- as long as the actual noise can't be heard from my living space. There's something very comforting to me about knowing I can walk 5 minutes from my apartment and be in the middle of things...if I want to. I am really afraid if I move somewhere with too much of the sound of birds singing and not much else that I will feel bored, restless and too much stillness.

So, I guess it's to each his own. I grew up in a birds-singing kind of place and I moved to a city because I love the energy and the options of going out whenever I want to meet up with people who are involved in a similar occupation. I'm also lucky that even though I live in a congested area, my actual apartment faces a garden and is extremely quiet (pin drop kind of quiet).
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